Ricoh GR III?

Jamie Pillers said:
I'll suggest one possible bit of competition for the GR (I've owned all the digital GR's at one time or another). I've been using the Fuji XF10 for a month now. 24mp Bayer-type sensor. Colors are excellent. My favorite feature is Fuji's version of snap focus. Push a button and the camera snaps to 5 meters at f5.6. Push the button again and it snaps to 2 meters at f8. I like the simplicity of this arrangement a lot. The other feature I use a lot is the focal length zoom... flick the ring around the lens a bit and it zooms from 28mm to 35mm; another flick and it zooms to 50mm.
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Thanks for the suggestion, Jamie. I might have a look. I didn't know the XF10 has snap focus.

This may sound trivial, but a feature I really value on the GR is the auto lens cap. I assume the XF10 has a separate cap. For my fast, one-handed shooting style it's pretty great. Sean Read calls the GR a "sketch camera," and that's how I use it. The stabilization might also help with the way I whip the thing around.

John
 
andersju said:
Nothing earth-shattering but looks like a fine upgrade.
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Given that Ricoh has been perfecting the GR over a couple of decades, I would be deeply concerned if the new one was 'earth-shattering'. Steady as she goes :)

For my use it looks like a fantastic upgrade. IS, dust-reduction and 6cm minimum focussing are things that will be genuinely useful in day-to-day use. 24mp is a bonus but honestly the existing sensor was fine. I'm glad they didn't go with an articulating screen as I think this would have moved away from the pocketability and durability of the existing form. Likewise, I've never felt like the GR I/II needed an onboard viewfinder.

Personally I'm happy to take a slightly smaller form at the expense of the onboard flash (I never use it anyway), but I can see why some people will miss this feature.

My only concern is that my shrinking the body horizontally, the rear controls may become a bit cluttered. Ergonomics are one of my favourite things about the GR...
 
nickthetasmaniac said:
My only concern is that my shrinking the body horizontally, the rear controls may become a bit cluttered. Ergonomics are one of my favourite things about the GR...
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It has gesture control at each of the four corners of the touch screen, much like the Fuji X-E3. So likely four more customizable functions. That's the good thing about the touchscreen: you can utilize the increasing screen estate for more controls.

It won't come cheap. I project the price to be a realistic $899 or $999...
 
Archlich said:
It has gesture control at each of the four corners of the touch screen, much like the Fuji X-E3. So likely four more customizable functions. That's the good thing about the touchscreen: you can utilize the increasing screen estate for more controls.
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I realise this (I've owned/own the GH2, EM5 and Pen F, all with touch screen), but a touch screen is never going to replace a tactile button/dial in terms of the haptic experience you currently have with the GR.
 
DPR now have a 'First Look' up which shows the back.

To make it skinner we've lost the exposure comp +/- buttons and selectable AEL/AFL/CAF button/switch.

Meh.
 
nickthetasmaniac said:
DPR now have a 'First Look' up which shows the back.

To make it skinner we've lost the exposure comp +/- buttons and selectable AEL/AFL/CAF button/switch.

Meh.
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That's a shame. Looks like they added a rear control dial though, which could presumably be used for exposure compensation (hopefully without easily triggering something else by accident...).
 
Hey, did anyone notice what Tokyo Camera Style said about Daido?

"Shinya Arimoto told me that Daido Moriyama told him that he could only ever get 500 rolls of film through a GR1 before it died. Moriyama gave up on Ricoh GRDs- he's shooting a screenless #SonyRX0 now, anyway."

I got a Sony RX0 for video work, but am finding it increasingly fun and useful for still photography. It's not screenless, per se, but just has a really small screen. The shutter is silent, it does auto ISO up to a usable 6400, and it's about the size of a two matchboxes side by side. Image quality is like a Sony RX100 or Panasonic LX10, and is sharper in the edges than the LX10.

Is the RX0 a replacement for the GR? No way. It's not intended for standalone stills camera use anyway, it's a chunky block of metal with a couple of buttons on top. But it's a heck of a lot of fun to play with.
 
Morimiya famously shot with Nikon Coolpix cameras back then (a post somewhere on RFF has it). They were not special, tiny sensors etc., just cheap and producing cheap looking jpegs somehow in line with the color images he made on cheap color negattives back in the '70s.

I mean, what he uses is irrelevant. The fact is he would use anything, just like Araki would use anything. Read his photos, read the (Nakahira) essays, not just "10 Best Moriyama shots you must see before you die", and it would be quite clear that the connection between GR and his style is but a myth, a myth that Ricoh welcomes.
 
Moriyama said in an interview that he has never bought a camera for himself, he has only used cameras which were given to him. So the much vaunted GR1v wasn't necessarily his choice, but more likely a camera that he acquired and found useful.
 
Archlich said:
Morimiya famously shot with Nikon Coolpix cameras back then (a post somewhere on RFF has it)
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Just repeating stuff found in the internet doesn't make it right ;) You are aware that he shoot decades before on film? And many of them with the GR or whatever he got in his hands, mostly for free. Coolpix came much much later. And only for a short period of time. Personally, I like his work from the film times much more than the newer stuff, but wouldn't see the used medium as responsible in his case.

Broken motor with the GR was also my favourite :(

Juergen
 
mod2001 said:
You are aware that he shoot decades before on film? And many of them with the GR. Personally, I like his work form the film times much more than the newer stuff, but wouldn't see the used medium as responsible in his case.

Broken motor with the GR was also my favourite :(

Juergen
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Yes he shot decades before - before the GR1, which came out in 1996. Moriyama became a name with his magazine works in the '60s and rose to star status in the '70s, using a Spotmatic, a Minolta SR-2 and a SRT-101, various long and wide lenses (the dog photo was taken with a Takumar 105/2.8 if memory serves), and a Nikkor 25/4 almost permanently attached to a Nikon S2.

"Many" were shot with a GR, yes, but only for a short period of time. They represent only a small portion of his enormous oeuvre.

A master has free reign over his or her tools. If someone feels inspired by Moriyama, he or she better shoot with anything that fits. Not just or necessarily a GR.
 
Archiver said:
I got a Sony RX0 for video work, but am finding it increasingly fun and useful for still photography. It's not screenless, per se, but just has a really small screen. The shutter is silent, it does auto ISO up to a usable 6400, and it's about the size of a two matchboxes side by side.
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I find the usable 6400 hard to believe... I couldn`t go past 800 on my RX100 IV. And I use 12800 on Fuji's.
 
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