Santa Wants to Know, Who Deserves a new Voigtlander Bessa R3A.

I don't have any lenses to offer, well I do actually but I want to keep them for myself...

However I can contribute 20 rolls of assorted 135, this'll be Provia400, APX100 some Tri-x, Agfa ultra 100, Delta 50 and Efke25. I will also pay for the post providing I get the address obviously. I will start packing it in later this evening and provide the exact assortment details here.

It will be sent the day the "winner" is chosen.
 
Eh, me too. I have so much of it now that my drawers are overflowing...thinking I should give some of it away for Christmas.
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If it's Delta 100, Pan F plus, or similar films, I'd be more than happy to shoot it. Not that I really need it because my parents buy me anything I need for school. (Most of my B&W film has been used for school assignments.)

Anyone here listen to Spoon, The New Pornographers, or the Decemberists?

Oh, and where do I sign up for this range finder?
 
Having several friends in Romania, interested in photography, i have a strange feeling w respect to this "need" for a Bessa-type rf.
Most of these people I know CANNOT afford to SHOOT FILM. On one hand buying film is a continuous expense, unless they only shoot 1-2 rolls a month (and that is NOT the point of this gift, i understand) - on the other hand, film processing is getting more and more difficult over there, more expensive, and less quality, so doing it themselves is the only way out. But this brings extra complications, since if you walk in a photography store there and ask for black and white film or developer, they will most probably look at you as you just dropped from the Moon. Kodak Gold 200 type films are still to be found, though.
Ordering via the Net is also very difficult - most people (certainly the ones that cannot afford such a camera) don't have a credit card. Paypal type countries do not work in such countries. Etc etc etc.
These people I know mostly work in something that gives them reach to a computer, and they prefer to have a digital camera (no,not the M8), that means practically no expenses when used. Only a few shots are printed, the rest are just "digitally enjoyed".
The moral of my story is, the people that are less fortunate financially, might find it problematic to regularly put a good film camera to use...

End note: For the above reasons, and depending on the outcome of this whole idea, I intend to add film material of value, say, 50$, to the Bessa, on my own expenses. No big deal, but it should be nice to have something ready to use in that camera.
 
Pherdinand said:
Having several friends in Romania, interested in photography, i have a strange feeling w respect to this "need" for a Bessa-type rf.
Most of these people I know CANNOT afford to SHOOT FILM. On one hand buying film is a continuous expense, unless they only shoot 1-2 rolls a month (and that is NOT the point of this gift, i understand) - on the other hand, film processing is getting more and more difficult over there, more expensive, and less quality, so doing it themselves is the only way out....
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Biggest problem in our eastern countries is shooting color film, because in almost every shop they dont make real prints from negative. they first scan film and then print those digital versions of photos , so you get photo that looks like it was taken with digital p&s. 🙁 and if someone do it in old way its too expensive. thats why i only shoot bw(we still have one shop in belgrade with very cheap efke chemicals and cheap expired efke film 😉 ).
 
you got it right Pherdinand, I'm thinking of leaving film for those reasons... finding some student job and buying the cheapest digital slr that i can found 🙂

just see this two images, developed and scanned in one lab (the best lab in town 🙂 ) that i get 50% discount (because i'm a member of local photoclub), and that is the only reason i'm still shoting 🙂 2$ fore development per roll is quite nice...

link 1
link 2

first one is superia (1 year expired), the second one is agfa vista (1/2 year expired)...

yes we have efke factory here, but for home developing i need to buy equipement and scanner... and that is more expensive than dslr
 
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This thread could make some good material for study on social networking. And I bet that "ironically unchallenged one" already updated his site :> If seriously contest purpose (as I understand it - to give away camera to someone who can not afford one) and contest implementation (popularity poll) simply don't quite match each other. So I am with raid here - I'd chose that "uknown stringer from war zone". And no, I am not familiar with one 🙂
 
darkkavenger said:
I strongly agree with Jocko. I own more cameras than I need to take photos, and each of those has given out lovely photos, so what's the point in giving a camera to die-hards who are getting a camera or two every month?

With all due respect to every member who has been nominated as potentially eligible to receive such a wonderful gift, I think -that is my humble opinion- that people who are known for purchasing regularly gear (no matter if it's a soviet camera, for these are cameras, and fully working ones) should be eliminated from an eventual final choice.

I do not intend to bias anyone decision, this is just my way of seeing this. And ... I may decide to give out a camera (or two, or three) to anyone if I feel like doing that, and that the person is patient enough to allow me to have stable finances to ship it. :angel:

I'm thinking of throwing in a Kiev-4A with a 50/2 Jupiter-8M, and also of throwing in a Fed-5 body (yeah, i know, no sarcasm ok?😉 it works!). And maybe a standalone Jupiter-8M in Kiev mount.
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Exactly.

Which is why I restate my nomination for Lynn (two muses).

Darkavenger: verifie ton boite des PM
 
Having lived too good of a life, this sort of thing did not occur to me.
Thanks for the reminder of how well off many of us have it in our everyday lives. :angel:

Pherdinand said:
Having several friends in Romania, interested in photography, i have a strange feeling w respect to this "need" for a Bessa-type rf.
Most of these people I know CANNOT afford to SHOOT FILM. On one hand buying film is a continuous expense, unless they only shoot 1-2 rolls a month (and that is NOT the point of this gift, i understand) - on the other hand, film processing is getting more and more difficult over there, more expensive, and less quality, so doing it themselves is the only way out. But this brings extra complications, since if you walk in a photography store there and ask for black and white film or developer, they will most probably look at you as you just dropped from the Moon. Kodak Gold 200 type films are still to be found, though.
Ordering via the Net is also very difficult - most people (certainly the ones that cannot afford such a camera) don't have a credit card. Paypal type countries do not work in such countries. Etc etc etc.
These people I know mostly work in something that gives them reach to a computer, and they prefer to have a digital camera (no,not the M8), that means practically no expenses when used. Only a few shots are printed, the rest are just "digitally enjoyed".
The moral of my story is, the people that are less fortunate financially, might find it problematic to regularly put a good film camera to use...

End note: For the above reasons, and depending on the outcome of this whole idea, I intend to add film material of value, say, 50$, to the Bessa, on my own expenses. No big deal, but it should be nice to have something ready to use in that camera.
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Ash did not come out on Kim's 28th Oct Brum canal photo outing because he was doing non photo chores, - decorating his sisters bedroom. He regretted this bitterly afterwards.

Self sacrifice above and beyond the call of duty.

Santa only fills your stocking if you have been a good boy?

Noel
 
It's that time of the year when we are all in the good spirit of giving. That being the case, RFF along wit CameraQuest wish to give a new Bessa R3A to a deserving RFF member.

There are many photographers here on RFF that are genuinely excited about rangefinder photography and would just love to be shooting with a new camera. However, as we all know, cameras can be expensive and our priorities push the camera to the bottom of the list of things we want to buy. That is why the RFF members will decide who is deserving of a new rangefinder camera for Christmas this year. It is up to us to read the threads and identify who is that person who really wants to get involved with RF photography but has not yet had a chance. We are looking for those with failing cameras or no cameras at all. We are looking to make someone happy this Christmas. Although we would love to give a camera to everyone, the reality is that we can only give one camera away.
This is not a contest but simply a way of giving thanks to the members who make our community work. Lets start by getting a list of names going on this thread. We will then take the most commonly thought of names and place them in a poll. The members will then get a chance to cast their vote for the lucky winner.

Merry Christmas to all from RFF and Cameraquest.


hi-lites are mine...
 
Well, I saw this thread 10 minutes ago ... I don't know what to say ... here in Serbia many photographers think that shooting film is waisting money ... and they are buying digital cameras... this summer, first time in my life I have tried to do some b&w prints - than I understood words: dark room alchemy( Frank.S)🙄

Merry Christmass to all. 🙂
 
Can't see any logic in giving an RF camera to some unknown in Baghdad. Even if we could find this person, giving him a professional looking camera will probably get him killed.

We're not going to save the world here. Let's give it to an RF member and be happy about it.
 
I agree 100% with Joes highlights on Jorges post, A deserving RFF member & a person with NO or a FAILING camera. If anyone wants to give a camera to a photographer in Iraq or where ever in the world then do it yourself or wait til after Christmas & talk to Jorge about it, but we all ought to respect the boss mans rules and make things less complicated. BTW this sounds like a worthy project for anyone fortunate enough to be in a area club.
 
gb hill said:
Charlie thats a wonderful gesture but aren't all industar lenses screw mount? It will need an adapter. That is if the lens will fit at all. Bessas are very peculiar that way. But i'm not 100% sure either.
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I presume this is aimed at me, {Dan} and I have no problems with adding a M mount on the lens when I send it.....😀
 
I'm sure the person signed his name Charlie, but the main reason I said it was that not all non voightlander lenses will fit on bessas and you wouldn't won't to give a lens that wasn't compatable, thats all.Went back & checked and your right .You were quoting Charlie. my mistake...sorry
 
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