I asked yesterday. Schneider presented hand samples (pre production samples).
The new 28 PC TS aspherical was vere impressive an due to his funcionality huge.
_ 28 PC TS aspherical under 6000€ , late 2013
_ 85mm Makro-Symmar under 2000€, early 2013
_ There were no samples, price ranges and start to market dates for the Xenons.