pundit
Established
Yep, Guess that I am either unlucky or Solms has decided to punish me for being such a poor and unworthy photographer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85974234@N00/sets/72157594500764785/
3 of 33 photos 1/25/07 exhibited banding. Not to worry, I would have noticed and deleted except that I do not review my basket until I get home from work. Old habits die hard. I will speak with Leica support to determine if there is anything particular with my M8 that is outside the expected tolerances. All 3 were taken at ISO 320 and DNG recording only and the banding seems to come from the top toward the center of the image. (They are posted on the link above)
To put it in perspective, shots like "Quality Meats" on my flickr page can be taken quite handily with my Canon EOS Mk II 1Ds, but the subjects would have been facing the camera instead of each other. The positions of the photographed was what I intended, so the M8 works very well for me even if a few are scarred by banding. When I shot film, I had some frames on each and every roll that disappointed my previsualization. I am not unhappy with my purchase - just keeping the palette of facts complete.
Regarding the iEye - I am a mere photographer and simply use the camera in my hand and the iEye appears to be tragically flawed in that it seems to be too automatic. I shall wait for the camera that has a mind meld program so that it records my pre visualization image at +2, dead on, -2 EV so that I can take advantage of HDR to make it rock despite human error in the previsualizing stage.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85974234@N00/sets/72157594500764785/
3 of 33 photos 1/25/07 exhibited banding. Not to worry, I would have noticed and deleted except that I do not review my basket until I get home from work. Old habits die hard. I will speak with Leica support to determine if there is anything particular with my M8 that is outside the expected tolerances. All 3 were taken at ISO 320 and DNG recording only and the banding seems to come from the top toward the center of the image. (They are posted on the link above)
To put it in perspective, shots like "Quality Meats" on my flickr page can be taken quite handily with my Canon EOS Mk II 1Ds, but the subjects would have been facing the camera instead of each other. The positions of the photographed was what I intended, so the M8 works very well for me even if a few are scarred by banding. When I shot film, I had some frames on each and every roll that disappointed my previsualization. I am not unhappy with my purchase - just keeping the palette of facts complete.
Regarding the iEye - I am a mere photographer and simply use the camera in my hand and the iEye appears to be tragically flawed in that it seems to be too automatic. I shall wait for the camera that has a mind meld program so that it records my pre visualization image at +2, dead on, -2 EV so that I can take advantage of HDR to make it rock despite human error in the previsualizing stage.
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ywenz
Veteran
gab, your M8 pictures are nice. Finally... some M8 pics not of random trees and stuff.. and nicely processed too.
pundit
Established
I just spoke with Leica support and what I was told (after they reviewed my banding photo set on flickr) makes sense within the context that I was operating in.
1) This type of banding is thought to occur when one shoots a photo after immediately powering on the camera or when the camera has reverted to standby mode. The electronics require approximately a second or so latency before all is well with the world before recording images.
2) There is a release of firmware planned which was written to mitigate this.
1) This type of banding is thought to occur when one shoots a photo after immediately powering on the camera or when the camera has reverted to standby mode. The electronics require approximately a second or so latency before all is well with the world before recording images.
2) There is a release of firmware planned which was written to mitigate this.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Sailor Ted said:
Ted, yes. I was told to let the battery run down a couple of times. Leave the power save off and the camera on overnight. The new firmware , February release I was told, will aleviate this.
Keith
harmsr
M5 Nut
jaapv said:Btw this one was taken with my first-gen body before it went to Solms.It should have come out like a zebra, but it didn't...
Jaapv,
Nice photo, but sorry it does have the vertical band in it also. You can see it faintly running top to bottom to the right of center or about 40% into the frame from the right edge.
Leica has explained the problem to me and stated it would be fixed in the next firmware release.
Best,
Ray
Sailor Ted
Well-known
ywenz said:
As if that's all we have been seeing as of late- really
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
harmsr said:
That is a 1.06 camera before it was fixed. My post was about horizontal banding, which is should have had in abundance on this type of shot at ISO 1250.... It didn't.
ywenz
Veteran
harmsr said:
Not to mention there is horizontal banding on the left most light. Blow this baby up? the banding will be very apparent.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
There is Ben. But by no means as obtrusive as it should have been. Look at the light right,, hardly any at all. Anyway, the camera is back from Solms just now and I'll give it a night workout in due course.
GrahamWelland
Well-known
pundit said:
Excellent (I guess
) - these conditions match exactly the scenario's that caused banding on my M8 too - both times I had attempted a shot, realised that I had the camera off and then turned it on and shot immediately.I would note that this has occurred only twice out of 500+ images so far - I'm still in my first week with the camera so learning as I go along. The other 498+ have been simply outstanding in terms of colour and image detail/quality compared even to my DSLR's. The detail resolution (I'm using Zeiss ZM's) is breathtaking at times, especially considering that I'm always shooting handheld.
I'm looking forward to the firmware release! (although I haven't seen instructions anyway in the manual on how I might apply it myself)
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ferider
Veteran
OT: Graham, you must have been in Yosemite just about the same time as me !
I'm just scanning a photo that looks almost identical to yours (except for the banding).
Roland.
I'm just scanning a photo that looks almost identical to yours (except for the banding).
Roland.