sent back my NEX 7

I shopped around a lot when I was looking at digital cameras. I loved the specs of the Sony NEX cameras, but I hate how they look. I have been shooting traditional-type cameras for a long time, and I wanted a camera which looked like a camera.

As for Ricoh cameras, I have an aversion to products made in China. Nothing against Chna, but Tokyo is full of Chinese toursists every day, and even they will not buy anything which is Chinese-made.

I had wanted a Fuji X-100, it had all the features I like; classic style, traditional controls, a great lens, and it was made in Japan (where I live). Then the X-Pro came out, so I bought one. So far, I don't regret my choice.

Personally, I don't care to use my M lenses on the X-Pro, I have gotten superb results with the Fujinon 35mm lens, and if Fuji's other lenses are anywhere near as good, they more than good enough. I'll pick up the 18mm lens later this week and see how well it works.
 
fondled the xpro this afternoon. didn't feel the magic.

i like the x100 a lot but i wish it were 50mm eFoV.

aaaaaaaaand it's on to the ricoh. oddly, i thought the ricoh was a really stupid idea when i first saw it. it actually looks like a lovely little camera.
 
i'm going to wait for the leica announcement. i'd really like a ricoh with a new sensor and better EVF.

raid, i join you in the runner-up club
 
I agree that the only real solution to using M lenses is a genuine M or an M mount body.

There's too many cameras being judged by their ability to run M mount glass currently!
 
it's more of a manual focus issue for me, but your point is well taken.

it's funny. i went to the store this afternoon to fondle the xpro. i picked it up, fired a shot and my thumb went for the film advance. lol.
 
bwcolor said:
May 10, 2012

and love my NEX-7 .. cancelled my X-Pro and three lenses, but so far the only E-Mount lens that I like is the Zeiss.
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Have you tried the 50/1.8 yet? You may also look into the new Sigma 19 and 30. The 30, in particular, looks stellar.
 
douglasf13 said:
Have you tried the 50/1.8 yet? You may also look into the new Sigma 19 and 30. The 30, in particular, looks stellar.
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I've read good things about these lenses. I've had the 50mm on order three times.. even early on with a $50 reduction in price and canceled three times. This was before I decided to buy the 24mm, which I only did because of the price increase. I really like the lens.

I've mostly Biogons on the wide side from my rangefinder. My Canon 'L' lenses are huge. So, I purchased the lens that mimics my most used 35mm lens. I have M-Hex, Leica and Zeiss ('M' and C/Y) lenses that take care of 50mm-300mm and very low light. I have the mediocre kit lens which I use for outdoor video. I like manual focus for most of what I do. In 35mm, I use 21mm, 28mm and 50mm far less than 35mm, so I was thinking of waiting for the standard 'G' zoom. I'm carrying a lot of lenses when I go out with two lenses in my kit.
 
porktaco said:
i'm going to wait for the leica announcement. i'd really like a ricoh with a new sensor and better EVF.
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Amen. Ricoh would be the winner if it had a built in EVF. As things are, I've another year of film to look forward to. Some manufacturer somewhere is going to make a mint when they get everything right ofr legacy glass users.
I hope Leica ditch the mech rangefinder and come up with a full frame/evf back up to the M9.
Pete
 
If you are serious about using a converted Contax lens, consider the Contax G series f2
Planar. I used to have a Contax G2 and I have yet to find a normal lens (45-55 mm range) that can equal the G Planar in sharpness, contrast and color rendition. It literally sparkles.
 
I think it is abusive when people buy things (like cameras), play with them, and then "send them back" just because they don't like them.

It costs us all money. Amazon, Adorama, B&H, etc, are not "lending libraries", who sell things to be "tried out".

The only time I send something back is if it has a true defect. Not liking something is not a valid excuse, just another abuse from people with a huge sense of entitlement.
 
I Love Film said:
I think it is abusive when people buy things (like cameras), play with them, and then "send them back" just because they don't like them.

It costs us all money. Amazon, Adorama, B&H, etc, are not "lending libraries", who sell things to be "tried out".

The only time I send something back is if it has a true defect. Not liking something is not a valid excuse, just another abuse from people with a huge sense of entitlement.
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How does someone else sending back a camera cost you money?

I have never sent any big ticket items back myself, but if the vendors decide it makes business sense to have a liberal return policy, it doesn't bother me. You do know that they restock items that are in perfect shape and as new, right? You have probably bought a returned item and never knew it - it still had the original warranty, so it made no difference.
 
You just have a different concept about what is proper in business than me, that's all. I think it is nonsense to buy something just to try it and return it just because you don't like it.

Maybe you should return books you read because you didn't like them?


gdi said:
How does someone else sending back a camera cost you money?

I have never sent any big ticket items back myself, but if the vendors decide it makes business sense to have a liberal return policy, it doesn't bother me. You do know that they restock items that are in perfect shape and as new, right? You have probably bought a returned item and never knew it - it still had the original warranty, so it made no difference.
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gdi said:
How does someone else sending back a camera cost you money?
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I read recently that the cost of this behavior is about $9 billion annually in the US. Can't remember where it was but I think maybe The Economist. We all pay for it because vendors factor such costs into their prices.
 
I Love Film said:
You just have a different concept about what is proper in business than me, that's all. I think it is nonsense to buy something just to try it and return it just because you don't like it.

Maybe you should return books you read because you didn't like them?
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It's really not about what you or I think is proper - it is about policies that the the store sets. There is no moral issue here as long as the buyer is truthful an honest about the return. The store decide the terms of returns before the transaction is made and if they are willing to allow returns of non defective items, it is silly to worry about the other people who do so.
 
THe myth continues

THe myth continues

jippiejee said:
There is. Leica M.
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THe glass is special and must be used on a special camera. Not that it will improve the photography, be one will FEEL like a better photographer is one spends $5 grand on something that encourages them to take bad shots.
 
I Love Film said:
14 Billion Dollars in 2010:

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/cost-returns


http://moneymamba.com/the-economics-of-store-returns/
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These links specifically discuss fraudulent returns and, mainly, the costs of selling used goods to liquidators. So they really aren't analogous to B&H allowing the return of an expensive camera within the terms of their policies. I dont think returned cameras are sold off in lots to discount stores in the same way fraudulently returned used clothes are. I am sure that the online retailers understand that consumers can't touch, feel, or otherwise inspect a product before buying so they allow these returns. Buyers are committing to a purchase usually based on photos and reviews and the product will not be as expected in some cases. Of course the buyer could visit a B&M retailer to inspect the product first and then go home and buy online, but I see more of an ethical problem with that than a straight up return.

But I will grant you that it does require some effort on the part of the store to restock cameras for resale. But it doesn't appear to have much impact on prices since all retailers are selling at about the same price for popular items regardless of their policies. It really seems to be a non-issue for the retailers, and it is their business.
 
Ah, it is splendid to be able to sit in judgement on the activities of our fellow man.
Would it only be possible to go in march step conforming to one person's opinion on what is the highest efficiency and greatest good.

Smart retailers have a policy of return within a reasonable period of time. That is what has made Nordstrom's, Costco and some of our favorite New York camera vendors so successful. It's called smart marketing and creating a loyal customer base.

As for myself, I have returned only defective items or products that do not meet the advertised purpose, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't return a product because I simply didn't like it.
 
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