jamriman
Established
If so, is it worth the extra money over the SF 20? Thanks in advance!
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Even the 24D is a bit on the small side imo, as I always use it with a diffuser. It is wonderfully compact though, as is the SF20 I would try using the SF20 first before investing. It is said that Metz plan to release a unit that goes well with the M8. I use my SF24D for fill-in flash mostly, as I find that the M8 handles dim lighting conditions so well, that it is not worth it creating that artificial flash look.
Grober
Well-known
Both Leica flash units are inadequate IMHO. Leica needs to introduce a unit compatible with the M8 that has a tilting flash head.
Yes, METZ units are wonderful but they are physically too large not to mention way too expensive.
-g
Yes, METZ units are wonderful but they are physically too large not to mention way too expensive.
-g
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Grober said:
I agree. However the diffuser by Leicagoodies goes a long way to correcting the lack of a tilting head.
dspeltz
Portsmouth, NH USA
MY 20 did not work so I traded it for a 24. It was not compatible. Although I do not use it much, but just in case......
jamriman
Established
I decided to sell my 20 in favor of the 24. Thanks for all your input .
Susan_NYC
Member
Any tips for figuring out how to use the SF 24d???
Any tips for figuring out how to use the SF 24d???
I got the 24d and tried it out for the first time yesterday. It is way too complicated!!! The instruction book doesn't even cover the M8... Any tips for figuring it out?
thanks,
Susan
Any tips for figuring out how to use the SF 24d???
I got the 24d and tried it out for the first time yesterday. It is way too complicated!!! The instruction book doesn't even cover the M8... Any tips for figuring it out?
thanks,
Susan
grduprey
Gene
Susan,
how is it complicated? there is only a couple of things to adjust. for exposure compensation just dial in the ammount you want. I use mine on the m8, and i put it in ttl mode turn the m8 on, then turn the sf24 on, press the shutter button down partially to synch them, and start shooting. the sf24d manual was written 2 years before the m8 was even announced, so yes it will not mention the m8. the m8 manual addresses the use of the sf24d. this unit is about 10,000,000 times simpler than any of the Canon or Nikon flashes. if you need any more help or have more questions send a email at grduprey@mchsi.com i am just sitting here recovering from a broken arm and heart attack, so plenty of time to work on problems like this, ;-)
gene
how is it complicated? there is only a couple of things to adjust. for exposure compensation just dial in the ammount you want. I use mine on the m8, and i put it in ttl mode turn the m8 on, then turn the sf24 on, press the shutter button down partially to synch them, and start shooting. the sf24d manual was written 2 years before the m8 was even announced, so yes it will not mention the m8. the m8 manual addresses the use of the sf24d. this unit is about 10,000,000 times simpler than any of the Canon or Nikon flashes. if you need any more help or have more questions send a email at grduprey@mchsi.com i am just sitting here recovering from a broken arm and heart attack, so plenty of time to work on problems like this, ;-)
gene
Susan_NYC
Member
You'll hear from me today!
You'll hear from me today!
Great - thanks! I'll grade six more students (figuring final grades) then send you an email.
I've never used a "real" flash - only the things on point-and-shoot cameras...and this is my first "real" camera...pretty everything is totally new.
I'm sorry to hear you're in such lousy shape - I wish you a speedy recovery.
-Susan
You'll hear from me today!
Great - thanks! I'll grade six more students (figuring final grades) then send you an email.
I've never used a "real" flash - only the things on point-and-shoot cameras...and this is my first "real" camera...pretty everything is totally new.
I'm sorry to hear you're in such lousy shape - I wish you a speedy recovery.
-Susan
Richard Marks
Rexel
Hi
I think the sf24 is great for fill flash. For portraits i find direct fill flash is actually better than bounced flash as it avoids shodows bellow the eyes. As a result i dont miss the tilting head. I have my best results using it just for fill and using as much ambient light as possible with slow sync flash. I actually use it in apperture rather than ttl mode as the pre flash in ttl mode is distracting and causes shutter lag.
So I think its ok for fill flash and on the plus side, its very light and does not unballance the camera. It would be woefully inadequate as a main source of illumination.
I agree with other posters that we could do with a more flexible more powerfull unit. Flash with film leicas seems sacriledge, but somehow I do use it more with the M8. I suspect its due to the reduced ability to resolve shaddow detail with digital when compared to film.
I think the sf24 is great for fill flash. For portraits i find direct fill flash is actually better than bounced flash as it avoids shodows bellow the eyes. As a result i dont miss the tilting head. I have my best results using it just for fill and using as much ambient light as possible with slow sync flash. I actually use it in apperture rather than ttl mode as the pre flash in ttl mode is distracting and causes shutter lag.
So I think its ok for fill flash and on the plus side, its very light and does not unballance the camera. It would be woefully inadequate as a main source of illumination.
I agree with other posters that we could do with a more flexible more powerfull unit. Flash with film leicas seems sacriledge, but somehow I do use it more with the M8. I suspect its due to the reduced ability to resolve shaddow detail with digital when compared to film.
cme4brain
Established
jamriman said:
I think it is not powerful enough for daylight fill flash. I am using a used Metz 40MZ-3i with all automatic functions save TTL flash control, and that is not that great if you read threads here and at Leica User Forum. I set the Metz on automatic and it does a great job, has a GN of 150- over double that of the 24D, has a tilt and swivel head.
hdrmd
Member
The 24D is just barely OK if the above diffuser is used. The Metz44MZ-2 has a tilt head and a swivel, and can be used off camera with the right SCA3008Am attachment. It is just that the Metz is big. As usual, a compromise. DR