Share your secrets for being "invisible"

Lots of good suggestions here. An alternative technique I have carried over from my SLR days is to shoot with extremely wide lenses, standing right next to your subject. This way you can be side-by-side facing the same direction with the subject at the edge of the frame. Once they are used to you being there, just a slight turn in their direction will put them much closer to the centre of the frame. With the CV 12mm you can practically take photos of people behind you!
Some times with my TLRs I will point the lenses toward a subject to my side but be facing forward. Most people don't have a clue what these crazy contraptions are so they don't know they may be in a photo.
BTW, I only "sneak" shots of people in public places doing normal things. I would feel bad if I felt I was intruding on a private moment.
 
So Douglas Adams still hasn't stopped by this thread? A shame. The powerful secret to invisibility, is successfully attaining the status of SEP - Somebody Elses Problem. Many of the suggestions here are in that area of thought, and I agree fully.

Myself, I've been practicing shooting from the hip as it were with a Kiev 4A with a wriststrap. The large shutter speed dial provides good grip for single handed operation, and when the light permits it, it works great when set to hyperfocal distance with the 35/2.8. Shutternoise is bothering me somewhat in quiet spots, but I need only touch the sidewalk barely with my foot in my stride to cover it when walking.

I'm watching this thread with great interest, though, as the next step surely is to lift the camera to the general vicinity of my face and start focusing (no pun intended) more on compositions.

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Kjetil
 
I find it strange that members here make such a point of using black camera in the attempt to deflect attention. I think black cameras are nearly as noticeable silver and in no way make any difference in catching (or not,) the attention of the subject. I will find out after my new black body arrives. The most important thing in street shooting is the behavior of the photographer. Being natural, not making eye contact, showing respect when called for and (trying anyway) to look knowledgeable will get the photographer what he/she needs. Also, carrying little in the way if gear helps. I know these thing were mentioned earlier, but I do agree with them and not the black camera idea. I like pre-focusing and shooting from the chest by the way. If you're looking at the top plate while doing it, people don't seem to realize you've just taken a picture.
 
Camouflage is not being invisible, it is not being able to be discernd from the background. WWII sub hunting aricraft would use lights to blend into the sky better. Current army camouflage is not totally absorbing in the infrared. It is reflective to match chlorphyll (in leaves) or similar to desert environs. Otherwise, you just shoot the black hole.

It helps to be good looking.

Black or silver, I don't think it matters much. A film camera stands out now, and a fast lens with a lot of glass showing makes people think that you are a pro.
 
Do not sneak up on people. Don't fake like you're shooting somewhere else. Don't use telephotos and snipe from afar. You'll be removed form your subject, and you'll be nervous - and nervousness is one of those emotions that just radiates from someone, and people will pick up on it. Confidence is 100% the key. Don't think of how you can be invisible, think about about making your picture. If you do something like it's what you're supposed to be doing, most people won't react negatively. Be prepared to talk to people, to disarm them, to be comfortable getting close and shooting them candidly as opposed to posing. And for the love of all that's sacred, no photo vests!
 
Some years ago I remember reading an article by a journalist who visited a then very elderly HCB. They chatted for several hours, including enjoying a glass or three of wine and a lunch.

While the journalist noticed that HCB would occassionally fiddle with his camera sitting on the table - at no time did he observe him pick it up and take a picture.

At the end of the interview/meeting the journalist thanked HCB for taking the time to meet but expressed regret that the great one had not even taken one picture of the meeing.

To which HCB replied that he'd taken a number of them.

You see, to HCB, the camera had become such an extension of himself that he "knew" it intamately and could set an exposure, focus and shoot even when the piece of gear was just sitting on a table!

Cool!
 
That is a neet story. I don't like to be sneaky about pictures. I find that just feeling confident that it is ok to take a picture works well. If people think that you are doing your job or you are supposed to be there they tend to not mind. being sneaky is no good if your no good at it, you get neverous and either it will be reflected in your technique or your subject. I just tell myself that I am a photographer and not a spy. Usually people don't react untill after you take the picture, at which point they can decide if they have a problem with that. It's wierd and I'm still not over the awkwardness of photographing someone I don't know. I wish I was that in touch with my camera to be able to pull it off like HCB. I'm not though.
 
Yesterday I tried a new method w/ my Model P and 50/ 1.4. I preset f-stop, focus at 10 ft. then quickly shot thru the wonderful CV 50 VF. Success! Anybody sell an "Urban Ghillie suit"?
 
Develop a perverse interest in autos, buildings, trees, bollards, post boxes, etc.

Improve technique, use the next wider lens, in case you dont frame properly.

Frame the shot, focus if need be lower the camera and look as if you are waiting for the foreground interest to move out of frame. Take shot when they detect you are waiting for them to move. You need a camera that does not thWWWWWKKKK like a Fed, LTM, or Zorki, but if they detect the noise you need only look like it is an accident. A TLR is pretty good.

If you get a good candid, accept you need to print the image with an enlarger racked to ceiling and scan the silver bromide print, and then post it.


Noel
 
Acceptable

Acceptable

steve garza said:
I find it strange that members here make such a point of using black camera in the attempt to deflect attention. I think black cameras are nearly as noticeable silver and in no way make any difference in catching (or not,) the attention of the subject. I will find out after my new black body arrives. The most important thing in street shooting is the behavior of the photographer. Being natural, not making eye contact, showing respect when called for and (trying anyway) to look knowledgeable will get the photographer what he/she needs. Also, carrying little in the way if gear helps. I know these thing were mentioned earlier, but I do agree with them and not the black camera idea. I like pre-focusing and shooting from the chest by the way. If you're looking at the top plate while doing it, people don't seem to realize you've just taken a picture.

FPjohn said:
If you are in full view* with a camera and seem to know what you are doing people will assent to having photographs taken. I try to take photographs only of people who tacidly known they are subjects. A small black camera helps.

yours
Frank

* Rover and others have also, above, made this point.

Hello:

Small black cameras seem more acceptable to people in general. A chrome M3 excites more curiosity than a black M4 and acts as invitation to comment. The effect is nothing to that produced by a Century Graphic .

yours
Frank
 
wlewisiii said:
If someone asks what you're doing ask them to pose 🙂 and I'll bet they will.

That's exactly what I mostly do 🙂
I just came back from a one week trip to Paris. On friday I noticed that fashion week was starting so I took a few photos with my Hasselblad of some of the 'fashion people' that were standing in front of the tents. Most people noticed and ignored me but one young lady (about my age - early twenties) walked straight up to me after I took a picture of her (it wasn't actually of her but she was in the frame). I thought she was going to complain but all she asked was what kind of camera this was. I told her it's a "moyen format" camera and asked if I could take a portrait of her. She said "oui" and I took the picture. I just hope she didn't think I was a model scout or something 🙂
 
Jamie you should have got her number as well 🙂 I was shooting a woman with her poodle in a bag last weekend and she asked what I was doing, I explained to her and ended up taking some "portraits" of it
 
my 3 rules:
1) don't try to be sneaky
2) be prepared by setting exposure and focus before pointing the camera at anyone
3) display a confident and friendly atittude. Act like you are working and "supposed" to be taking pictures. Smile nod a thankyou if you are noticed. Move on purposefully.
 
- Dress like a local. Wear quiet shoes and subdued clothing.

- Be aware of local customs and traditions. As an example in some countries you may find yourself in a heap of trouble if you take a picture of a girl or woman, without getting prior permission from her husband/brother/father etc. Do some research and if in doubt and following the chain of command ask very politely if it is permitted.

- Carry as little gear as possible.

- On the sidewalk walk near the curb and shoot in towards the building. The attention of most pedestrians is directed ahead of them and to the shop windows.

- Sit still long enough and you'll disappear into the scenery. Try to move only when your subject isn't looking in your direction.

- Try to avoid jerking the camera up to grab the shot. A rapid movement will quite often cause people to instinctively look your way, even if they only catch you in their peripheral vision, because they are looking for "the lion in the tall grass". 🙄 Instead raise and lower the camera in one fluid movement of moderate speed.

- Look past your subject, like you are focusing on something behind or beyond them and continue to do so even if they spot you, especially AFTER you have released the shutter or your subject has moved out of frame. If the person persists in trying to figure out what I was doing, I will simply advance the film, raise the camera again and take another shot or two, pretending like I am taking additional shots of the same thing. Sometimes I have even given the appearance of being slightly annoyed, because THEY walked into MY shot or will even politely ask them if they coud slide over a few feet after I have taken the initial shot, so I can get a clear picture! It's total BS and you have to be something of an actor. 😛

- Avoid giving the appearance that you are sneaking a shot. Just take it and you will arouse less suspicion.

- Understand people's private space. Depending on the terrain this can be a bubble anywhere from a few feet to several yards in diameter. Interestingly a 50mm will often allow you to take a traditionally framed shot without intruding on said space and drawing attention.

- Smile and be charming if you are spotted.:angel: Keep it simple and honest. Say 'thanks' and move along, before you get drawn in to an extended conversation. It's how you deal with the aftermath that is important and will keep you out of trouble.

I hate to say it, but it is nearly unavoidable to at times appear rude or intrusive to someone while conducting street-photography. Unfortunately that's part of the lot of being a practitioner of this craft and you're just going to have to learn to live with it.

There are other approaches, but they depend heavily on your personality and presence.

Gary Winogrand had a very large personality and was a physically imposing figure. People would ask him why he had just taken their picture and Winogrand would boom very theatrically: "It's not YOUR picture, it's MYYY picture!" and get a way with it.🙂

HCB would supposedly act just like the stereotypical, abrasive Frenchman and blow you off. That is if he reacted at all.🙄


- Politely tell them you are an artist, instead of a photographer. Artists are notoriously poor and usually arouse sympathetic feelings among people, unless you are dressed like an anarchist. 🙄 Photographers are almost always perceived as wanting to make money from their pictures (even amateurs). They are considered intrusive and more often than not disliked by the general public, because our image has been soiled by the paparazzi.😡

- Sometimes it's to your advantage to dress the part of a photographer. If I'm shooting at a demonstration, street fair etc. I will sometimes openly carry three cameras and just shoot point-blank.

At a demonstration I will sometimes take along a light photographers vest (that I can stow in my bag if needed), so the cops can instantly differentiate me from the demonstrators if things get a little heated...

People expect to be photographed at such events and will often mistake you for the press or a working shooter and leave you alone.

- Preset focus and exposure. Use scale focusing. In my experience you rarely get more than 1-3 seconds to fiddle with the settings before you are noticed.

- Use a quiet camera that doesn't sound like every SLR you hear on TV or in the movies. We've been conditioned to that sound and react to it accordingly. A Leica M does not make a recognizable shutter sound to 99% of the population, so it doesn't register as "That was a camera going off and I've just been photographed"

- Use a TLR with a waist-level viewfinder.



HL
 
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This may be of some help..

I've been taking a lot of photographs of listed (heritage) buildings and objects here in London for the English Heritage 'Images of England' project. The easiest way I found to be invisble is to wear a bright (orange) fluorescent vest - mine has 'English Heritage' stamped on it as I'm an employee as well as a volunteer photographer. I was using an ancient Nikon SLR with a motor-drive and a perspective control lens - noisy, bulky and unsubtle. No-body took any notice whatsoever - people looking official in fluorescent jackets doing vaguely technical things are such a part now of the UK urban landscape that no-one sees you other than someone not to bump into or run over. I could just as easily been taking pictures of people and general street life and if I wasn't using film specifically for the job in hand, probably would have too.

Regards

Andrew More
 
DMG said:
Jamie you should have got her number as well 🙂 I was shooting a woman with her poodle in a bag last weekend and she asked what I was doing, I explained to her and ended up taking some "portraits" of it

If it hadn't been my last evening in Paris I would've definitely (at least) thought about asking for her number. She was cute and there's just something attractive about a woman speaking french 😉

Tomorrow I'll find out how the picture turned out. I think I missed the perfect moment for the shot so I'm not expecting much. Anyways....it'll be on my flickr gallery in a day or two 🙂
 
Just take the shot. See the first image at
www.nelsonfoto.com/bikes/bbbbq2006/color

There are moments when I want to engage my subject directly, and others where I want distance, but I still take little effort to avoid "discovery". The importance of this sort of work, to me, is people interacting with others or their environment, or my interacting with interesting people I come across.

Either way, I think attempting to stealth your way into it is wasted time and effort. It doesn't have to be that way.

C.
 
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