Shooting A Kiev With A Single Hand

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ruben

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Ooooops ! Today I did it !

But as some of you know me, I am not going to make a short story about it.

First I am not the first one, as so far as my memory goes our friend VinceC, mentioned it several times concerning the use of the small wheel. I assume as well that other members do it and have not mentioned, or have and I do not remember.

Secondly, take note that from all manual focusing rfs I own, none allows this action, nor the lightest and compacts. Only those with the small focusing wheel will allow it. Nevertheless I expect some corrections here from other posters.

Thirdly (you see, its going long) I happened to have a byke accident less than a decade ago, resulting in two surgeries of my right hand, one in the joint between my hand and my arm, the other between the joint of the two parts of the arm. Therefore, raising a Kiev to my eye with a single hand is exactly the meeting of my weakest hand/arm ergonomics.

This is not to cry about my misfortunes, but to insinuate that the task is more than possible. Due to my accident, when others spoke about shooting with one hand, and after small unsuccessfull tryials, I thought this is not for me.

Now, just in case there is any lonely Kiev owner up there in the hills wanting to know how to do it, I will try to explain it.

My starting point is that you are standing, holding the camera down, as if you were walking and not shooting, but holding the Kiev by the rules of the "Contax grip". Of course no need to say you will not try it without a wrist. And btw, I assume that by wristing a strap it may be more of an obstacle. A wrist is needed.

Then before I explain my opinion about the trick, in a shooting situation you have to be pre-setted both with aperture and time, AND your focus should be rationally close to the real one - otherwise you will start turning the small wheel for so long time that shooting single handed will attract the attention of your subject and therefore loose any advantage.

About how to pre-focus a Kiev in two standard positions, comfortable to slight adjustment, I have wrote in a different thread. Here I will just mention that VinceC uses to guess the distance, then prefocus, and then adjust with the small wheel. This method may be of your taste.

Now about the trick. It is all about gripping the camera with the Contax grip, BUT giving it a very slight change. Your thumb at the back of the camera will moove a bit inwards. or in other words, more of your thumb will press the back to the camera against your other fingers in the front side of the camera.

Of course that the middle finger, the longest one, remains totally free to move the small focusing wheel.

Concerning the thumb, in my case, even half inch of my hand following the thumb is used to press the back together with the thumb.

That's not all. It seems to be a point of balance you have to find in order that it all may work. In fact I discovered this point of balance before finding the thumb's stuff.

To end this, let me clarify, that these findings concern a Kiev with half case mounted. I assume that according to the size of your hand and fingers, you may prefer it either with case or without.

Now, who the hell needs to shoot a Kiev with a single hand ? You are right. I guess some dozen folks around the globe using Kievs for street shooting.

Cheers & shtrudel,
Ruben
 
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>>Only two reasons i can think of, you only have one arm, or you are eating a sandwich?<<

I'm reminded of the classic "Dirty Harry" scene where Clint Eastwood gunned down bank robbers while eating a hotdog.

However, you missed the most important one -- HOLDING A DRINK. The Kiev/Contax/Nikon with focus wheel is the ultimate party camera. You can visit with your friends and never have to set down your beer/pinot noir/lemonade while taking pictures. I do this quite frequently. In most of these situations the light is steady, so the main variable is focus.

Also, photographers are always looking for new and different angles, and I like to climb up on fences, cars, trees, rocks, etc. You can hold on safely with your left hand while using the right hand to focus and take photos.

I have small kids, and sometimes in busy traffic, etc., it's good to keep them by the hand. I've taken some pictures with one hand while holding one of my children with the other.

Just carrying stuff. These days, I'm usually making my photos while taking the girls for hike or going out shopping or some such thing. You can keep shooting even when your arms are full. Last year I took my daughters to a museum outing and ended up holding both their coats plus a bag of souvenirs, and
I was able to keep taking pictures with my free hand.

The focus wheel takes getting used to. But once you do, it's a nice feature. And, if you don't like it, ignore it. (However, the wheel is great for holding the lens steady while changing apertures).
 
To tell the truth, in my case shooting with a single hand is more related to conspicuity than anything else. But let's put things in propper proportion.

Not every shot should be done conspicuously, even in the street. And not every shot to be done conspicuously needs to be done with a single hand.

However, being able to shoot with a single hand is another feature in the arsenal of the street photographer. There is no question that two arms holding a camera attract much more attention than a single one. And two arms holding any camera insinuates a Pro, perhaps dangerous one, while a single hand shooter is more associated with a tourist amateur.

In view of the lack of other advanced features in our Kievs - let's at least make the most of what we do have.

Now, eating a hotdog while shooting with a single hand can in fact be the best conspicuous way to shoot at all. If I portray myself in such a situation I think most people around may think I am not really shooting but playing with the camera !.

Remember that a lubricated and distensioned Kiev is dead silent too. So this, plus the single hand shooting and a hotdog or a can of cola, amounts to a lot of conspicuity !

Cheers and hotdog,
Ruben


PS,
From long ago I had the feeling that Contaxes and Kievs hold great secrets lost somewhere between generations of users. The more I daily use my Kievs - the more logical and practical they become to me.
 
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>> You can also use an off-camera flash in one hand and the camera in the other.<<

I forgot about that one, which I do fairly often too. One of the best accessories I ever bought was a 5-foot flash cord.
 
Ducky said:
I'll have to practice. I have big hands, and a big nose to rest the camera on but it was still awkward.

While you hold the camera with the Contax grip, go first to the balance point.
I mean a certain point which by pressure of your fingers holds the camera best.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
>>Can you also set diaphragm and cock the shutter using only one hand, with your camera at the neck? I suppose it's not possible to change the speed in such way<<

Diaphram is easy, especially with infinity lock and 50mm lenses. Other lenses require practice.

Winding shutter knob takes some work with a Kiev but is do-able.
 
Ruben:

I pre focus and use a small aperture and let depth of field take care of that side of things.

My camera has automatic exposure which usually works fine with C41 film, but I can use the +/- compensation dial if needed.

Most times I need to find somewhere to sit to use both hands to set the camera up. There are plenty of seats outside cafes, and benches by the road, and low walls so that's easy to do.

As I said above I hold the camera with one hand and although it may be a little crooked I can use software to rotate the photo a few degrees later.
 
I think it's time to create a whole new RFF section - Ruben's Stories. 😉 They are enjoyed by many and would be easy to find that way. 😉 😉
 
VinceC said:
Winding shutter knob takes some work with a Kiev but is do-able.
I went out with a child at one hand last sunday and could take some photographs with the Kiev as my daughter wasn't too bouncy that day. I wound the film by holding the camera normally, pressing the cameras left side against my chest with the palm of my right and turning the wheel with forefinger and thumb. Crude but works.

I haven't yet figured how to change speeds one-handed, though.


Stefan
 
With the camera on a neck strap you can use the hand you have available to make the settings you need while it hangs on your chest / stomach.

Other times I just take the Leica Minilux!
 
Yes, with pracice you can wind the KIEV with one hand... and even set or change shutter speeds (something I try NOT to do), but in normal use, use the KIEV WIND.

Grasp the wind knob in one hand and the KIEV body in the other... now twist in opposite directions. One motion and you're done. Not as fast as lever wind, but a lot better than just twisting and twisting the knob.
 
Now you brought up a topic in which I actually have some expertise! Having lost the use of my right arm way back in the late 60s, I long ago learned that, like the old addage, necessity is the mother of invention.

The only way to do this left handed is to support the weight of the camera on the lens barrel and resting the bottom of the camera body on your pinkie, ring finger kind of wraps about the back of the camera. It's how I once (sort of) held a baseball when pitching a slider. That leaves the your index and middle fingers free to move the controls on the top deck of the camera. (I can even change shutter speeds on my all of my Canon SLRs and some of my rangefinders, achieved through years of practice)

There are variations on this for differences in camera, position, vertical/horizontal, or just pain in the hand after lots of shooting (!) but it works on the same principles.

On my rangefinders, since I usually have the aperture preset according to what I judge it should be, I rest the lens lever on my thumb and need just need a gentle pressure on the focussing lever to get it right. My middle finger goes for the shutter release. Some shots are too hard to do all at once, so I break it up - aperture/meter, release to hang from strap, bring back to eye, focus and snap.

Sure I look odd at times, but I got over that. I'm too busy making the shot to have time to worry what people might think.

Easiest 1 handed cameras: Canonet, Bessa, Canon P, any Canon FD mount SLR

Trickiest: Kiev 4AM, Fed 2 (sometimes a finger stops all those gizmios from whirling about on the outside of the camera when you press the shutter)

Easiest lens: Any Canon FD lens I have - smooth, easy to use, everything where it should be!

Trickiest lens: CV Classic 35/2.5 - very small and therefore hard to focus one handed.

Tip: Get a few Softies. They make it lots easier to shoot for me! I bought 3 at Fedka last month.

Here's me doing a vertical selfie with my Bessa:

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Long story short- unless you have NO arms, you can do it. In fact, there's probably a solution for those with no arms - we humans are very adaptive.

PS- With the Kiev, I focus using the lens itself, not the wheel. On the Helios it works just fine.
 
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Jim,
Bravo!

The Kiev/Contax/Nikon are designed for one-handed operation with the right hand. But, as you point out, this makes them particularly tough for solo lefties.
 
I carry a camera when walking the dog. It's hard enough holding the leash of an energetic terrier but try it while attempting to focus and shoot with an M6. It's either a Kiev or autofocus.
 
I just changed films, sitting at my desk, and wondered how people with limited movement in one hand manage that?

As an aside a local grocery delivery guy has one arm, left, and drives a truck and delivers wholesale fruit and vegetables to restaurants. As far as I've ever seen his truck is not modified in any way.

My electrical store guy is also left arm only and runs a successful business selling televisions and washing machines and the like.
 
Sometimes I wonder how people with 2 manage to get anything done at all - One hand is always getting in the way of the other. Let's face it, God gave us 2 - in case one went on the fritz, we could still get things done. And we do. Ingenuity and dexterity work for me. And I drive, toss quarters into toll machines, take photos, type, (used to) play racquetball, bowl, etc. One thing I never managed was juggling. If you think you'd never be able to do it, you sell yourself short.
 
My bartender (not Cameraquest, but the real bartender at my local bar) has eyes that look in totally opposite directions.

He claims it enables him to pour my drink and watch the kids sneaking into to the cigarette machine at the same time.
 
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