Nokton48
Veteran
250 in daylight, 200 in incandescent light
dave lackey
Veteran
Great! Box speed for daylight. I always shot at 250 in years past but for some reason I have been hearing of others using a different EI. I am using DD-X most of the time these days.
Thank you so much!!!😃😃😃
Thank you so much!!!😃😃😃
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Dave, I have been very happy shooting 5222 at ISO 250, developed in D-76 for 9 minutes at 68 degrees F. Nice to see you active on the forum, BTW!Ah! I found some Eastman 5222 film in my desk. I had forgotten I had them so now I am ready to ask:
What is the general consensus lately for setting the EI… 80? 100? Other?
Thanks so much!
Freakscene
Obscure member
In DD-X you can get a little more speed out of it, but 250 is a slight pull that results in beautiful negs if you calibrate your development time to your exposure.Great! Box speed for daylight. I always shot at 250 in years past but for some reason I have been hearing of others using a different EI. I am using DD-X most of the time these days.
Thank you so much!!!😃😃😃
dave lackey
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Thanks, guys! This saves me a lot of time starting back with 5222film!😃😃😃
Oh how I am loving the process… the craft, the experience and the magic of film again.👍👍👍
Oh how I am loving the process… the craft, the experience and the magic of film again.👍👍👍
dave lackey
Veteran
Just loaded my black FTN with a roll of expired Eastman 5222.
Wondering if I should adjust the EI for the expired date being 8-10 years. 🤔
Wondering if I should adjust the EI for the expired date being 8-10 years. 🤔
PRJ
Another Day in Paradise
250 is a solid choice. The most I've ever gotten out if it is 640 but that is really sketchy. I'm talking about printable negs, not scanning. You could probably stretch it a bit more if you are just scanning.
Nokton48
Veteran
I am curious to know, if anybody on this forum is test shooting the 120 rolls of Eastman 5222 XX. I have bought a few rolls from B&H, they have it in stock at a discount from it's list price.
I'll be posting some here at the proper time. What about the rest of you medium format XX shooters? Should be delicious looking.
You know, I'm OK with $11.99 a roll, 'cause they had to order a master roll from Kodak to pull this off. IMO this stuff is worth supporting!
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What say you Guys??
I'll be posting some here at the proper time. What about the rest of you medium format XX shooters? Should be delicious looking.
You know, I'm OK with $11.99 a roll, 'cause they had to order a master roll from Kodak to pull this off. IMO this stuff is worth supporting!

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What say you Guys??
Nokton48
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I am curious to know, if anyone here has tried yet, the 120 version of Eastman 5222 XX roll film? BTW B&H has the best deal on this I have found, at $11.99/roll.
That's a lot, but they had to invest in a master roll from Kodak to pull this off. So IMO it is worth supporting this. XX is my long fave 35mm emulsion, in medium format it should be delicious
dave lackey
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dave lackey
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Interrupted as usual and did not get a chance to finish…🤷🏼♂️
The M2 is the other camera I will use and it is scheduled to be loaded with some fresh 5222. I will be interested to see how the fresh and expired films compare. (Pretty much back to back.)
Of all the 35mm cameras I can use, quite frankly, the M2 with the 50mm/1.4 v. 1 is the most interesting. I have gotten terrific results with the MF Nikons and I have high expectations for the M2.😃
The M2 is the other camera I will use and it is scheduled to be loaded with some fresh 5222. I will be interested to see how the fresh and expired films compare. (Pretty much back to back.)
Of all the 35mm cameras I can use, quite frankly, the M2 with the 50mm/1.4 v. 1 is the most interesting. I have gotten terrific results with the MF Nikons and I have high expectations for the M2.😃
Nokton48
Veteran

One of my first XX inages. Leica M2 with M2 Rapidwinder directly from TomA ADOX Borax D76 Dev and Replenisher, 85mm F1.5 Canon (wide-open at F1.5). Good for cloudy days. I rolled down my car window and did this shot. I bracketed in half stops up and down to give myself a choice
Nokton48
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Dave,
You could also get a few rolls of 120 XX for your Hasselblad. It's a good match up I think. Mamiya C22, C33, and C2 Mamiyaflex also like 120 XX.
If you buy $50 from B&H free shipping, and they have the best price on 120 XX
Expired XX gets greyish slightly darker base density as it ages. Easy to compensate for when converting to positive image
You could also get a few rolls of 120 XX for your Hasselblad. It's a good match up I think. Mamiya C22, C33, and C2 Mamiyaflex also like 120 XX.
If you buy $50 from B&H free shipping, and they have the best price on 120 XX
Expired XX gets greyish slightly darker base density as it ages. Easy to compensate for when converting to positive image
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Nokton48
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Second Exposure. I yelled out " ONE TWO THREE" and got it just right this time Difficult to catch at the "decisive moment". SRT with mirror lockup engaged, 21mm Rokkor QH Eastman XX 5222 Minolta Yellow filter D23 1:1 This lens has replaced my 19mm Canon RF lens. I think I like it just as well.
qqphotos
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I've been having fun playing with double-X, it's nice to have an actual 200ish speed film. I was surprised to find it's pretty nice in PMK, too.
Nokton48
Veteran
It pretty much can be made good with about any developer. Certainly we have seen most of it here. We need to wake this thread up!
dave lackey
Veteran
Well, I’m awake!😇
Evergreen States
Francine Pierre Saget (they/them)
Double X doesn't have a remjet coating to begin with.My understanding is that it’s rebranded Eastman 5222 run through Cinestill’s proprietary remjet removal technology.
Nokton48
Veteran
Actually they put an anti-static coating on it, so it doesn't burn lighting bolts (static charge) inside those uber expensive 35mm motion picture cameras. Adding the anti-static is the only change they have ever made in the original formulation. It was created in 1958 and still available, it's amazing. Hollywood uses a -lot- of it that is why it is still around. Fifty year old formula is readily available.
Freakscene
Obscure member
It is remarkable, 5222 really is the same.Actually they put an anti-static coating on it, so it doesn't burn lighting bolts (static charge) inside those uber expensive 35mm motion picture cameras. Adding the anti-static is the only change they have ever made in the original formulation. It was created in 1958 and still available, it's amazing. Hollywood uses a -lot- of it that is why it is still around. Fifty year old formula is readily available.
I helped set up a third party qa/qc lab for cine film. They have samples of 5222 back to the original 1950s batches. Sensitometrically, if developed equivalently, it comes out the same all the way through to today. Batch variation occurs, but every lot I measured was pretty much right on. It has some very minor chemical differences, and you can see where the machines were changed it you look at it physically, because a new coating line produces a different physical film characteristic. But it’s the same. It really is remarkable - essentially everything else in film photography has changed, but 5222 is just the same.
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