Should Film Just Shoot Its Self ...

[Sparrow]

... ah ... reeducation, that explains it

 

[Scrambler]

Did anyone ever make a stills camera that shoots onto DV or VHS tapes? Serious question.

Can't answer that one, but there were still (analog) video cameras that recorded onto miniature floppy disks. You had to use a video capture card to get a digital version of the image, or use the stills like video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_video_camera

My ex-father-in-law had one like the one pictured at the top.

 

[__jc]

I agree.
We tend to lose sight of the fact of just how unrepresentative our little corner of photography is with its fixation on Rangefinders ,form factor , film and old film cameras.

I never see any of this stuff out on the streets or discussed within other photography groups.

I`m happy with that but it does suggest that to any new members this may require some explanation.
Hence the repeat questions and speculation.

Err... except I have a suspicion that this post may have been triggered by a contemporaneous post about film dying a second death or some such nonsense that was posted by someone with something like 800 posts...

 

[leicapixie]

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142034

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142034

Thinking of buying an M2 now and having the same issue, as I don't have much money. But then I thought, if I spend the same money (including what I would spend on film and chemicals) on a decent Canon DSLR, that'd be worthless in 10 years too anyway 🙂

Ten years! You are kidding right..
next week a newer model..
That is main reason, i have stayed with point and shoots..
I use them till they are not working..
Oh! My original 1st purchase, 2005, Pentax Optio is still working.
Truth tell except for a street sale Kodak Easyshare $5,
both have the best color and skin tones..
Last week i bought 100' Kentmere 400.
Film will here for a longtime..
Find the best price..

 

[Paul Jenkin]

The world seems to have a smattering of people who are so convinced of their perception of the world and "how things should be" that they feel obliged to try to evangelise and educate the rest of us toward their way of thinking. A bit like the religious zealots who congregate around railway station exits, handing out some torpor-inducing propaganda....

Being a reasonable person, rather than beat them repeatedly with a Hasselblad 500c/m, I usually just tell them to bugger off back to their own little world and stop bothering the rest of us.

PS - I would hate to think that anyone might perceive me to be in any way anti-digital. I am not. I own a Fuji XPro-1 and a Nikon D800 and enjoy using them both immensely. However, I really don't subscribe to the belief that only one medium or the other has the right to exist.

 

[daveleo]

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[Sparrow]

The world seems to have a smattering of people who are so convinced of their perception of the world and "how things should be" that they feel obliged to try to evangelise and educate the rest of us toward their way of thinking. A bit like the religious zealots who congregate around railway station exits, handing out some torpor-inducing propaganda....

Being a reasonable person, rather than beat them repeatedly with a Hasselblad 500c/m, I usually just tell them to bugger off back to their own little world and stop bothering the rest of us.

PS - I would hate to think that anyone might perceive me to be in any way anti-digital. I am not. I own a Fuji XPro-1 and a Nikon D800 and enjoy using them both immensely. However, I really don't subscribe to the belief that only one medium or the other has the right to exist.

...... amen

 

[Scrambler]

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B---y dead languages ...

Though Latin does prove that some things can die twice.

 

[__jc]

Appropriate use of the Lorem Ipsum text. From a passage translated by H. Rackham in 1914: "But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"

In other words, no more film is dead posts please.

 

[rbsinto]

It's dead. It's not dead. It's dying. It isn't dying. It's making a comeback. It isn't making a comeback. It's alive and well. It isn't alive and well.
Did I leave anything out?
Debate, argue discuss all you like.
I have tons of frozen slide film and places to get it developed, so this silly business doesn't concern me even a little bit.

 

[Michael Markey]

Err... except I have a suspicion that this post may have been triggered by a contemporaneous post about film dying a second death or some such nonsense that was posted by someone with something like 800 posts...

Drat ...another theory blown out of the water 😀

 

[KansanTim]

... Slide film? Another 2-3 years, tops. ...

Sure, it will disappear sometime, but I'd bet the over on that one. However, it doesn't matter much, as I agree with the premise of the thread that the rampant speculation adds little value to the discussion. I'll shoot film when I feel like it until it disappears, and after that point I'll find something else to do (shooting digitally or not shooting at all).

 

[Rodchenko]

I'm off out with my camera. Please will someone let me know if film's dead when I get back?

 

[Ko.Fe.]

... I'm sure that's the case, but why go out of your way to tell film users this? ... repeatedly

Some of those who gave up on film and went only digital would like to declare their personal thing as something bigger 🙂

We (as family) gave on film in 2007 with replacing of SLR with advanced digital P&S. What was for consumer film with terrible scans and terrible prints at local Walmart (which I'm very thankful to keep their lab after this until the moment I came back to film, personally and with my own scanner).

In 2012 I started my own DIY b/w film journey for one simple reason, b/w digital was not alive and isn't alive yet. It might becomes as live as b/w film at some point in terms of digital representation, but last year I started to wet print and it is much more results pleasing fun, comparing to boring and cumbersome printing from comps.

Wet printing is the art on itself.

 

[nongfuspring]

Can't answer that one, but there were still (analog) video cameras that recorded onto miniature floppy disks. You had to use a video capture card to get a digital version of the image, or use the stills like video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_video_camera

My ex-father-in-law had one like the one pictured at the top.

Oh interesting. Thanks! Seems there are some people on flickr still using them from time to time.

 

[Brian Atherton]

I can’t even be bothered to respond to all this utter nonsense about film being a dead medium.

Bugger. I just have. 😡

 

[gb hill]

All film is dead until you shoot it. (pun intended) It's the light that gives it life. 😉

 

[John E Earley]

However, I really don't subscribe to the belief that only one medium or the other has the right to exist.

Pretty much sums it up.

 

[Sparrow]

All film is dead until you shoot it. (pun intended) It's the light that gives it life. 😉

... so, you shot it and it lived? would that constitute a bad shot do you think? 😉

 

[KM-25]

Better to get rid of confirmational bias:

The confirmation bias refers to the tendency to selectively search for and consider information that confirms one's beliefs.

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The only way to free yourself of the interminable speculation is to avoid internet forums about it.

This place gets wiser by the minute....that is a good thing....