d.dulin
Established
I also found this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIB-SM-Cameras-Outer-Shell-Body-With-Leatherette-Genuine-Parts-/302599435815 I wonder if it could be used on a iid body as long as the slow speeds portion is covered?
Erik van Straten
Veteran
I also found this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIB...-With-Leatherette-Genuine-Parts-/302599435815 I wonder if it could be used on a iid body as long as the slow speeds portion is covered?
Many cameras that were converted after the war got a shell like this. The slow speeds portion was covered with a small lid. If you can find such a lid ... but that will be difficult I'm afraid.
Erik.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
I also found this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIB-SM-Cameras-Outer-Shell-Body-With-Leatherette-Genuine-Parts-/302599435815 I wonder if it could be used on a iid body as long as the slow speeds portion is covered?
First, glue a small disk cut from a soda can over the holes, than order a new leather cover from www.hugostudio.com for a Leica III where you request strap lugs cut out only, but not the slow times mechanism.
And voila, you have a body shell for a Leica II with strap lugs installed.
d.dulin
Established
I did want to have mine covered in grip tac but couldn’t bring myself to get rid of the original covering because it’s in such good condition, but if I do the iii shell i wouldn’t have any qualms with covering it in grip tac.
How involved is swapping the shell? If nothing but the lens mount and body screws have to be removed I may even do it myself.
How involved is swapping the shell? If nothing but the lens mount and body screws have to be removed I may even do it myself.
Dralowid
Michael
I did want to have mine covered in grip tac but couldn’t bring myself to get rid of the original covering because it’s in such good condition, but if I do the iii she’ll i wouldn’t have any qualms with covering it in grip tac.
How involved is swapping the shell? If nothing but the lens mount and body screws have to be removed I may even do it myself.
You will need to re-collimate the lens. There must be a thread showing how this is done but I can't find it.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
You'll need to re-collimate the lens setting (screw thread), not the lens itself. Very hard without special apparatus.
Erik.
Erik.
d.dulin
Established
Had a chance to develop my test roll today and the curtains are light tight! However, unfortunately the sprocket holes show on the bottom portion of the photo. I think I remember someone here once saying the reason for this and was hoping someone could chime in.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Modern film canisters are about 2 mm shorter than those used when the I, II or early III camera models were made. However, you can use modern, shorter film canister with the help of a thin plastic ring that pushed the film canister in direction of the top plate.
If you use reloadable Leitz FILCA film canister (which only fit screwmount Leicas) the problem also will be solved since those are of the correct length.
If you use reloadable Leitz FILCA film canister (which only fit screwmount Leicas) the problem also will be solved since those are of the correct length.
weihsuan
Established
Modern film canisters are about 2 mm shorter than those used when the I, II or early III camera models were made. However, you can use modern, shorter film canister with the help of a thin plastic ring that pushed the film canister in direction of the top plate.
If you use reloadable Leitz FILCA film canister (which only fit screwmount Leicas) the problem also will be solved since those are of the correct length.
Hi, regarding using a thin plastic ring (~2mm in thickness?), should I mount the plastic ring on the bottom plate such that the film canister is pushed towards the top plate? Just acquired a "hockey stick" Leica I, and have no clue about incompatibility of canisters.
Thank you in advance!
maddoc
... likes film again.
I use a thin Teflon ring of ~ 1.5 mm thickness that I put on top of the film canister before mounting the base plate. It just needs to push the film canister up.
EDIT: The film canister are only incompatible in the way that you cannot use old (longer) FILCA canister in M Leicas. The shorter film canister work in the old screwmount Leicas but part of the frame can be shifted into the sprocket hole area.
EDIT: The film canister are only incompatible in the way that you cannot use old (longer) FILCA canister in M Leicas. The shorter film canister work in the old screwmount Leicas but part of the frame can be shifted into the sprocket hole area.
Hi, regarding using a thin plastic ring (~2mm in thickness?), should I mount the plastic ring on the bottom plate such that the film canister is pushed towards the top plate? Just acquired a "hockey stick" Leica I, and have no clue about incompatibility of canisters.
Thank you in advance!
weihsuan
Established
Thank you for your reply and explanation!
I use a thin Teflon ring of ~ 1.5 mm thickness that I put on top of the film canister before mounting the base plate. It just needs to push the film canister up.
EDIT: The film canister are only incompatible in the way that you cannot use old (longer) FILCA canister in M Leicas. The shorter film canister work in the old screwmount Leicas but part of the frame can be shifted into the sprocket hole area.
d.dulin
Established
I think I’ve found the solution I’d be happier with, it involves removing the factory washer under the center screw for the on/off lever and replacing it with one that is wider in diameter to hold the film up
Jerevan
Recycled User
I think I’ve found the solution I’d be happier with, it involves removing the factory washer under the center screw for the on/off lever and replacing it with one that is wider in diameter to hold the film up
I just turned the factory washer upside and put in again.
d.dulin
Established
I ended up drilling a hole in a penny (US) about 1.8mm thick and installing it in place of the original washer. I’ll let you all know if it worked once I shoot another roll
David Hughes
David Hughes
Here they all are side by side:-
And here, with the film carefully aligned and held in place by a paperclip, are an elderly FILCA and a modern Ilford FP3 Plus cassette. I hope this shows the clear difference in the positioning of the film.
Regards, David
PS I hope it's obvious what all the different cassettes are...

And here, with the film carefully aligned and held in place by a paperclip, are an elderly FILCA and a modern Ilford FP3 Plus cassette. I hope this shows the clear difference in the positioning of the film.

Regards, David
PS I hope it's obvious what all the different cassettes are...
Papercut
Well-known
I ended up drilling a hole in a penny (US) about 1.8mm thick and installing it in place of the original washer. I’ll let you all know if it worked once I shoot another roll
Nice idea! Hope it works. Do you put the penny / washer in before the film cassette? Or after? (Please forgive the silly question: I've only loaded a Barnack once -- a few days ago -- and am waiting to finish the roll to be able to see whether I loaded it properly or not.)
d.dulin
Established
Kevin,
From what others have said it goes on the bottom plate, which is where I put mine. I’ll hopefully run a roll through it soon to see how well it worked
From what others have said it goes on the bottom plate, which is where I put mine. I’ll hopefully run a roll through it soon to see how well it worked
Papercut
Well-known
Thanks! And do please post findings.
Kevin,
From what others have said it goes on the bottom plate, which is where I put mine. I’ll hopefully run a roll through it soon to see how well it worked
d.dulin
Established
Haven’t shot a roll through the iid since the penny mod but I’m curious about using a SCNOO rapid winder, direct compatibility with the iid or is any kind of modification needed?
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
The SCNOO should fit your Leica II if it was made after the introduction of the SCNOO without modification. There should be a slot at the bottom of the winding stem for the SCNOO drive shaft to bite into. It will only fit cameras up to and including the IIIb though, as the IIIc's body is slightly bigger.
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