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Rich Silfver said:
In the back of my mind something tells me that the IIIc was a single die-cast body and that structurally it is supposed to 'feel' even more solid than the later IIIf for instance. Am I making this up or is really the case (I haven't fondled both models myself so I can't tell).
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The single die body casting began with the IIIc making it and all subsequent models stronger than the earlier Leica models I, II, III, and IIIa.
 
Thanks Frank so I was somewhat right. So the single die cast structure was used all the way from IIIc to IIIg?
 
That's right, Rich. The new construction method added a few millimeters of size to the cameras. I like my IIIa. Any your black II is lovely!
 
Thanks, but now I'm curious to feel how a IIIc 'and up' feels. :)
 
raid amin said:
I know that this is not a Leica I/II/III camera, but it is their forefather and should be allowed "in".
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The Leica II and Standard were both introduced in 1932 with the II preceeding the Standard by some months according to my reference.

Walker
 
doubs43 said:
Raid, I can't see the top of your camera due to the lens shade. Does it have a rangefinder? If it does and has a Standard serial number, it would have been converted by the factory into a Model II. My father's IIIa was a Standard that was factory converted but retained the same serial number followed by an asterisk.

I agree with Rich; it looks like a real beauty!

Walker
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Walker,
The camera has no viewfinder or rangefinder.
 
Hi, It just so happened that I got curious about using an old Elmar lens and a gentleman on PN had one for sale there, so I bought it. This was followed by an out-of-the-blue pm to me by another gentleman who read here in this website about the possibility that I let my mintish Canon VI-L go, and he sent me a pm offering a trade of some sort. We have until the end of this month to decide whether we both want to finalize the trade or reverse it. Unless I am mistaken, the Elmar also comes from the late 30's or so. Your guess that the two accessory shoes could have been meant for a rangefinder and a viewfinder makes a lot of sense. I have a rangefinder (German) somewhere ...
 
raid amin said:
Walker, The rewind knob comes out for easier rewinding, as you said, and you have the correct serial number. The owner of this camera did not say anything about the camera being custom made, but he told me that the black version is rare to find compared to the chrome version of the Standard.
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According to my reference book, the first 5,0000 Standard models were made in black. They ran from serial number 101,001 ~ 106,000 and were from the date beginning 21.10.32 (21 Oct, 1932). I'm not certain how many Standard models were made but after the first run, the majority were made in chrome so black in your serial number range is not common.

The Standard was almost the same as the Leica I, Model C except for the pull-up rewind knob which it shared with the Model II that was the first model with a rangefinder.

Sold as only the body, the black Standard was coded ALVOO and with with the Elmar lens it was coded AROOG. Chrome models were coded ALVOO CHROM and AROOG CHROM.

Walker
 
I only have one classic Leica screw mount camera.

It's spolied rotten.
 
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Above, Summitar (coated), Canon 50/1.8, J-3, Collapsible Nikkor 5cm/2, Elmar

Except for the Elmar, all of the lenses can be seen in the bottom portion of the main viewfinder. None of them are "bad", can barely be seen. The Canon 50/1.5 blocked less of the VF than any of the first four shown here.

More lenses on this IIIf, scroll down about 1/2 way.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...98&highlight=nikkor+canon+leica+iiif+summarit

And a close-up of the Nikkor and Summicron.
 
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I think I may work on my problem today. I received a rebate check from some Christmas stuff I bought.
 
Well at least you have some 50's to use on it.

The Canon 50/1.5 is perfect on the IIIc or IIIf.

My IIIf is actually a IIIc that was factory converted. This is the camera that I got in the brown paper "Grab-Bag" at a pro camera store for $50.
 
One day (but not during March, 2006 !) I will try to buy a clean Canon 50/1.5 to check it out against my other 10-12 different 50mm lenses.
 
> Sweeney, that's got to be one of the cleanest Barnacks onboard here. Looks great!

This is how it came back from Essex. Before it went up, the RF image was unusable, had one shutter speed, and the chrome was "dingy". I was going to CLA it and sell it. It came back like this, crystal clear viewfinder, perfect split image, and working great. Needless to say I could not sell it!
 
rover said:
I think I may work on my problem today. I received a rebate check from some Christmas stuff I bought.
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My found money is still in hand, I was out bid... :(

There is another cutie closing tomorrow though, so I will give it another shot.
 
Brian Sweeney said:
> Sweeney, that's got to be one of the cleanest Barnacks onboard here. Looks great!

This is how it came back from Essex. Before it went up, the RF image was unusable, had one shutter speed, and the chrome was "dingy". I was going to CLA it and sell it. It came back like this, crystal clear viewfinder, perfect split image, and working great. Needless to say I could not sell it!
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Brian: Did Essex also clean up the chrome?
 
IIf in red

IIf in red

I just dressed my IIf in a tight red leather dress but I am not sure. I liked the skin on my M2 better, it was more varied in colour. Both are Aki's wine red snake.
So I will play with het in red and see if love grows. The black beauty spot in place of the slow speed dial causes a voice in my head repeating: black - black - black is the traditional way, keep it like that.
Still, I'm not sure.

What do you think?
 

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Walker, Leo's III looks more red dial than mine, it must be cleaner. Not like any black dial I know...
Nice to see the finder again, Leo!
 
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