Sigma SD1M ... any users out there?

Weight wise, the sd1m is 25 oz compared to around 20 0z for my dp2m plus rrs grip (12.5 oz w/o grip). So slightly more weight then what I would normally carry, but almost twice the height and slightly thicker.

My Fuji xp1 body 15.9 plus Fuji hand grip (around 5-6 oz) that's maybe 23 oz, so pretty close to sd1m.. But both the Fuji and sd1m example does not even have a lens weight associated w/ it, so the xp1 vs sd1m is a closer reality check.

Gary
 
I would really like to see through the viewfinder of the SD1M .... that's a critical point for me. My vision can be pretty ropey some days!
 
Keith said:
I would really like to see through the viewfinder of the SD1M .... that's a critical point for me. My vision can be pretty ropey some days!
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Keith,
The viewfinder of the SD1 is not bright. That was disappointing to me. That may be partly (or largely) because of the cheap 18-250mm lens I am using. I'll know soon because my 50mm f/1.4 should be here tomorrow.
Nevertheless, the viewfinder isn't nearly as bright as my Canon 5D Mark II.
 
Eric T said:
Keith,
The viewfinder of the SD1 is not bright. That was disappointing to me. That may be partly (or largely) because of the cheap 18-250mm lens I am using. I'll know soon because my 50mm f/1.4 should be here tomorrow.
Nevertheless, the viewfinder isn't nearly as bright as my Canon 5D Mark II.
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Please get back to this thread when you've tried the camera with that lens Eric. 🙂

I've been pretty spoiled DSLR wise with my D700 which I generally only use with fast primes. As I would with the Sigma of course!
 
GaryLH said:
Stumbled upon this during a google search. Have no clue in terms of how good this was. But listed a bunch of people selling in your neck of woods.

http://www.shopbot.com.au/pp-sigma-sd1m-price-357647.html

Gary
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A lot of those are drop shippers ... I recognise several names there. I bought my D700 this way as I knew the camera was exactly what I needed so no need to handle one in the flesh.

I noticed the other day that one of Australia's largest camera outlets DCW no longer stocks Sigma cameras ... they did a few weeks ago when I checked! Some of these places are real shockers ... when I was in their retail store a while ago I asked about the latest Pentax DSLRs and the bonehead behind the counter told me they'd been selling a few but he personally thought they were overpriced crap! 🙄
 
After all this investigation... There is no fixed length 14 or 16 (21 or 24) lens. All the lenses in this range are zooms 🙁. On the other hand, the 30f1.4, 50f1.8 and 100f2.8 macro are attractive.

W/ my existing dp1 & 2 Merrill's, I can c supplementing from starting from the 30f1.4 on, at the cost of twice as big, almost twice as heavy w/30. But once I drop the initial cost, it ends up in reality how many more lenses I really want to get.

The big plus over the dp Merrill series is
- faster af
- faster lenses (2 stops better)
- more lenses to choose from
- infrared capable (450 to have maxmax convert a camera)
- no need to buy a rrs grip (160), built in grip
- remote shutter release
- UI is basically same as dp Merrill
- slr viewfinder
- bulb

The minus
- bigger and heavier (more than 2x when u add lens)
- initial cost compared to dp series more 3 to 4x when u add cost of one lens unless u deduct 450+160 from the 1900 for things on my list
- CF instead of SD memory card
- no fixed focal length 21 or 24 equiv lens ( can't find one on b&h for SA mount)
- I can get a d600 for around same price (ff 24mp) and I still have my Nikon lenses around but it is not a foveon sensor (I just like the look)
- like the dp Merrill series, forget high iso

Now if u add the q4 rumor into this, what is probability that it will be
- wider than 28 equiv focal
- longer than 50
- a zoom (due to the dp4/dpz part of rumor)
Right now I don't c longer than 50 is a high probability. That leaves zoom which I don't think i would care about or wider than 28 which I would want. Since no fixed 21 or 24 anyway for SA mount lenses, it would end up complimentary.

Did I miss anything?

Gary
 
You didn't miss much Gary! 😀

If ... and I say 'if' I got one of these the first lens I would get would be the 24mm for a 35mm equivalent field of view.

35mm really is the do all focal lengthe for me and has been on my D700 for a long time.
 
Forgot about the 24.

My preferred equiv ff focal lengths are 21-40-75-90-135 (rf) or 21-24-35-50-90-135-200 plus 90-100ish macro (slr) depending on camera system.

Gary
 
With my luck if I buy it now, in q4 they will announce a new version of the sd1m, it has been over 2years since they announced the expensive sd1 only to rebadge it as a sd1m... 🙁

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
With my luck if I buy it now, in q4 they will announce a new version of the sd1m, it has been over 2years since they announced the expensive sd1 only to rebadge it as a sd1m... 🙁

Gary
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I wonder what changes they would undertake with a potential replacement?
 
Some possible improvements could be
- sensor related
-- ff (I doubt)
-- APS-h (I doubt)
-- better high iso vs noise (would love color to 1600)
-- 24 mp or higher (when sd1 was announced, the d600 or 800 was not around)
- digital path
-- faster processing
-- direct tiff or dng support
-- live view support
-- better Jpg processing
- others
-- sd instead of cf
-- dual sd or cf card support
-- faster write time to memory card
-- higher resolution LCD
-- go to csc style instead using an evf like the one on Sony Nex or Fuji xe1 (highly unlikely), more likely to be a derivative of the long wished for csc dp as opposed to a Pentax K style dslr..
-- movie support (i never use it, but there are people wanting it)
-- sensor cleaner

Anyway just some guesses. But I have not heard of any rumors about a next gen yet, mainly making a supposition.

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
Some possible improvements could be
- sensor related
-- ff (I doubt)
-- APS-h (I doubt)
-- better high iso vs noise (would love color to 1600)
-- 24 mp or higher (when sd1 was announced, the d600 or 800 was not around)
- digital path
-- faster processing
-- direct tiff or dng support
-- live view support
-- better Jpg processing
- others
-- sd instead of cf
-- dual sd or cf card support
-- faster write time to memory card
-- higher resolution LCD
-- go to csc style instead using an evf like the one on Sony Nex or Fuji xe1 (highly unlikely), more likely to be a derivative of the long wished for csc dp as opposed to a Pentax K style dslr..
-- movie support (i never use it, but there are people wanting it)
-- sensor cleaner

Anyway just some guesses. But I ave not heard of any rumors about a next gen yet, mainly making a supposition.
Gary
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With the general move away from DSLRs to mirrorless for many well heeled hobby shooters they may not bother? The current model obviously hasn't set the photography world alight! 😛
 
True.. They may just concentrate on their dp Merrill series. But for lensrental website to carry the sd1m, there has got to e enough interest out there.

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
True.. They may just concentrate on their dp Merrill series. But for lensrental website to carry the sd1m, there has got to e enough interest out there.

Gary
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If I though they were not intending to bring out a new model in the immediate future that would definitely sway me.
 
Part of the problem is that if people don't buy because they are worried about this, then it becomes a self fulfilled prophecy in a way... I tend not to worry about it, the camera just needs to stand on its own merits.

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
Part of the problem is that if people don't buy because they are worried about this, then it becomes a self fulfilled prophecy in a way... I tend not to worry about it, the camera just needs to stand on its own merits.

Gary
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Totally agree, it's so easy to get wrapped up in a fear of obsolescence, or of being left behind. It's liberating to just not worry about what manufacturers are doing, and just worry about what you're doing.

The self-fulfilled prophecy is probably bang on the money too, I wonder how many computer platforms would still be popular if people just got what they wanted and not worried about what manufacturers were doing next.
 
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