ferider
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Given that you have a fast 35/1.4 that is probably around the same size as the new "compact" Biogon ....
I just think compactness on the new Biogon is pure marketing. You know how small the color skopar is - which is faster, too.
So it's not really about speed vs. size I guess.
Roland.
I just think compactness on the new Biogon is pure marketing. You know how small the color skopar is - which is faster, too.
So it's not really about speed vs. size I guess.
Roland.
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would you say that the leica offerings in 2 and 2.8 are about marketing also?
ferider
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Well the new Leica offerings are certainly way, way overpriced, IMO.
One of my 3 (long discontinued) Leica lenses that I think are worth having is the 35/2 v3. About the same size as the 40/2 that you know. I like it mostly because it is so small. Again, much smaller than the new Biogon.
You know I don't have a lot of lens brand integrity
Think about it this way: at a normal party, in a restaurant, some bar or dinner situation you need 400 ASA, f2, 1/15-30s.
Roland.
One of my 3 (long discontinued) Leica lenses that I think are worth having is the 35/2 v3. About the same size as the 40/2 that you know. I like it mostly because it is so small. Again, much smaller than the new Biogon.
You know I don't have a lot of lens brand integrity
Think about it this way: at a normal party, in a restaurant, some bar or dinner situation you need 400 ASA, f2, 1/15-30s.
Roland.
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i wasn't thinking so much about the new sumarit line as much as the summicron/elmar/elmarit lenses.
i agree the new leica lenses seem to fit nowhere given their prices.
i rarely go out at night anymore and 99% of my shooting is outside and daylight. i have the 50/1.5 for low light.
if i were to go for the new smaller zm lens i would likely sell the 1.4 cv and the zm f2 lens as well.
it's all theory right now though.
i agree the new leica lenses seem to fit nowhere given their prices.
i rarely go out at night anymore and 99% of my shooting is outside and daylight. i have the 50/1.5 for low light.
if i were to go for the new smaller zm lens i would likely sell the 1.4 cv and the zm f2 lens as well.
it's all theory right now though.
ferider
Veteran
I am the last one to make rational recommendations .... 
Just buy it and try it out - then sell the others if you think the new one is a substitute, Joe.
Just buy it and try it out - then sell the others if you think the new one is a substitute, Joe.
thomasw_
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Hi Joe, I would caution you against selling your cv35/1,4; as the 35mm focal length is your favourite. You would be best to have a lens capable of handling lowlight in your favourite focal length. If you have doubts about the cv35/1,4 that's another issue, but I assume here that you are satisfied and pleased with its rendering at 1,4. It seems to me your question is about the two ZM 35s; which would be better suited as your primary lens, the f2 or f2,8? Grant that the optics of the f2,8 model are on par with the f2. Accordingly, by your own account, you would use it mostly in daylight; so to me it would make sense to trade your f2 biogon for the f2,8 model simply because it is more compact. But, again, to my mind, it would make sense to have a second fast lens in your favourite focal length.
Good cheer, Thomas
Good cheer, Thomas
Uhmm can I have both ?
Sure
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Hi Joe, I would caution you against selling your cv35/1,4; as the 35mm focal length is your favourite. You would be best to have a lens capable of handling lowlight in your favourite focal length. If you have doubts about the cv35/1,4 that's another issue, but I assume here that you are satisfied and pleased with its rendering at 1,4. It seems to me your question is about the two ZM 35s; which would be better suited as your primary lens, the f2 or f2,8? Grant that the optics of the f2,8 model are on par with the f2. Accordingly, by your own account, you would use it mostly in daylight; so to me it would make sense to trade your f2 biogon for the f2,8 model simply because it is more compact. But, again, to my mind, it would make sense to have a second fast lens in your favourite focal length.
Good cheer, Thomas
very sensible...
i have been using the cv 35/1.4 on the zi this past weekend but have not processed any of the film yet. i think i prefer it on the zi and not the r4a for several reasons. if the shots come out ok it would make sense to keep that lens. then, yes, it would be a matter of maintaining the status quo or swapping the zm 2 for the 2.8, which is attractive simply because of the size difference.
i wish there were some shots on the net taken with the 2.8 but i have not yet found any.
it would be great if the zm lenses were compared similarly to the summicron and the now discontinued elmar m (in 50mm) - i love that elmar m.
joe
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