So an R3A with this? Or an R4A With That? And other questions....

[mtbbrian]

Hi!
I am new to this parts and am looking to purchase one of the aforementioned cameras.
Trouble is, I am not sure which to buy.
I wear glasses and am looking for a set up that has a combination of the following lens.
25, 35, and a 75 or 90.
Should I get the R3A and have a 25mm finder? Or shall I get the R4A?
How does one use a "longer lens" on an RF?
My background was with SLRs, but I also use a Holga, so I am hoping that the transition will be smooth.
Any other suggestion are welcome!
Thanks!
Brian

 

[Huck Finn]

The R4A won't be available for 5 months so you can't get it now. It will not do the job for 75 & 90 lenses. In fact, it has no frame lines for them.

Given the 2 cameras you're considering, the R3A withan auxiliary finder would be the better choice. However, it is not a particularly good choice either since the 40 frame lines will not give you the field of view needed for composing with your 35 mm lens. In the Voigtlander line, an R2 would be a better choice.

 

[dostacos]

find a nice R2 or R2A for the 75 & 90s then when the R4 arrives....

it is FUN spending other peoples money 😀

 

[kshapero]

sounds good to me

 

[mtbbrian]

The R4A won't be available for 5 months so you can't get it now. It will not do the job for 75 & 90 lenses. In fact, it has no frame lines for them.

Given the 2 cameras you're considering, the R3A withan auxiliary finder would be the better choice. However, it is not a particularly good choice either since the 40 frame lines will not give you the field of view needed for composing with your 35 mm lens. In the Outlander line, an R would be a better choice.

I am aware that the R4A isn't available until April, but I am still a little confused about how RF's work.
Why won't a "longer lens" work on a camera when a "shorter" one will.
Is there such a camera that work with that range? From 25-75?
Thanks!?
Brian
😕

 

[BrianPhotog]

I am aware that the R4A isn't available until April, but I am still a little confused about how Raf's work.
Why won't a "longer lens" work on a camera when a "shorter" one will.
Is there such a camera that work with that range? From 25-75?
Thanks!?
Brian
😕

It has to do with the RF focusing system and accuracy. From wide to normal, RF focusing and lenses (sharpness & lack of distortion) are superior to SLR focusing & lenses. The longer the focal length the less accurate the focusing (this is where SLRs beat RFs). How accurate a RF can focus a lens is highly dependent on "base length". The longer the base length the more accurate focusing with teles will be.

For 25-75 I highly suggest an R2/R2m/R2a. It's kinda in the middle, between the R3a/R3m and R4a/R4m 🙂

 

[kshapero]

I wear glasses and the R3M is the close as I can get and afford to an MP (lust). Plus the 1:1 magnification is really great.

 

[cbass]

Brian, I had a quick look at your MTB portfolio and it seems as though you favor wides for much of your work. If that's the case, then you might want to avoid using a 75mm or 90mm lens with an RF camera because you'll probably get better results from your SLR at those focal lengths.

My suggestion would be to hold out for the R4A and take full advantage of its AE and multiple wide angle framelines.

By the way, you have some very nice work in your portfolio. I especially enjoyed some of your mountain bike and Holga shots.

 

[mtbbrian]

Brian, I had a quick look at your MTB portfolio and it seems as though you favor wides for much of your work. If that's the case, then you might want to avoid using a 75mm or 90mm lens with an RF camera because you'll probably get better results from your SLR at those focal lengths.

My suggestion would be to hold out for the R4A and take full advantage of its AE and multiple wide angle framelines.

By the way, you have some very nice work in your portfolio. I especially enjoyed some of your mountain bike and Holga shots.

Chris,
Thanks for the cudos!
My only need for a "longer lens" would be for portraits, but otherwise I'd want the R4A, because I do love it wide!
I guess I'll just have to re think my terms when it comes to "long lenes"!
Brian

 

[PlantedTao]

I don't see why not go with R2 or R2A with the lenses you want...
this will be more useful until you get use to a rf...then you will acquire a need to own more equipment and at that time get a R4...then a leica and so on.

The R2 will be great for many lenses and with the dof of wide angle, just zone focus and use the auxillary finder.

good to see you in these parts 🙂
Cheers.
Jason

 

[dazedgonebye]

If I understand correctly, you can still use your longer lenses but focusing accuracy would suffer because of the decreased magnification and effective baseline.
You'd likely want an external finder...just as you need external finders for wides on the current line.

 

[mtbbrian]

I don't see why not go with R2 or R2A with the lenses you want...
this will be more useful until you get use to a rf...then you will acquire a need to own more equipment and at that time get a R4...then a leica and so on.

The R2 will be great for many lenses and with the dof of wide angle, just zone focus and use the auxillary finder.

good to see you in these parts 🙂
Cheers.
Jason

I know you!
I didn't know you shot an RF!
Decisions, Decisions.......
So many cameras, so little MONEY!
The more I think about it, the more I waffle on making a decision.
I go back and forth mostly between the R2 and the R4.
Brian
😕

 

[mtbbrian]

If I understand correctly, you can still use your longer lenses but focusing accuracy would suffer because of the decreased magnification and effective baseline.
You'd likely want an external finder...just as you need external finders for wides on the current line.

So there are external finders for "longer lenes"?
I thought they only made them for shorter ones?
Brian

 

[dazedgonebye]

CV makes finders for 75mm and 90mm.
There are other aux finders for various FLs. I have an old tele finder that covers 35mm - 135mm.

 

[5nap5hot]

What about using http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtpma2004.htm the 28/35 Minibrightline finder on the R3A?