kshapero
South Florida Man
Referring to post #1
Photo #1 Shot at 5.6, I think. If so the bokeh is a little bit there but no much. Shot with Ilford XP2
Photo#2 Shot at f11. gave of a very unique contrast. Also shot with XP2.
Photo#3 Shot at about F4 with Kodak C41 B&W. Would have liked more contrast but still a nice shot.
Photo #4 Shot at f16 with Fuji reala. Would have looked more alive if I had over compensated a full stop.
Photo #1 Shot at 5.6, I think. If so the bokeh is a little bit there but no much. Shot with Ilford XP2
Photo#2 Shot at f11. gave of a very unique contrast. Also shot with XP2.
Photo#3 Shot at about F4 with Kodak C41 B&W. Would have liked more contrast but still a nice shot.
Photo #4 Shot at f16 with Fuji reala. Would have looked more alive if I had over compensated a full stop.
Krosya
Konicaze
Actually, the Pop Photo review was of the, now discontinued, 50/3.5 version of this lens. It is, I believe, an optically different beast. Does anyone know whether the Nikon version of the 50/3.5 (which is still available AFAIK) produces the same results as the vaunted M-mount version?
Actually , no it's Heliar 50/2 (however there was another review of a Heliar 50/3.5 at Pop Photo as well, where it was very much praised)- this is what it says on Cameraquest.com (Hope Mr. Gundy will be Ok with me quoting from his site, if not - Mods, - please remove this post):
"Popular Photography raves about the 50/2 Heliar! Take a look at the December 2006 issue of Popular Photography, page 59. Burt Keppler's article is essentially about the 50/2 Heliar. Quoting "The Heliar turned out to be incredibly good, comparable at all apertures to the 50mm f/2 Leica Summicron-M we'd tested in 1996." Cosina did it with "Newly developed super high-index glass (that) reduces all aberrations." Keep in mind the only two camera makers in Japan that produce their own glass are Cosina and Nikon. When Tom Abrahamasson and I discussed a new Heliar at the factory with Mr. K in 2004, he was not not at all sure a satisfactory modern 50/2.8 Heliar could be produced. It would not surprise me if Mr K had this high index glass developed just for the new Heliar."
see page on Bessa R3M/R2M set :http://cameraquest.com/inventor.htm
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
BTW, got my prints today. They look just like the scans--I'm really happy about 'em. Firms up my nascent admiration for this peculiar little lens.
minoltist7
pussy photographer
that's what I found first:
good samples of Heliar bokeh
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507812153/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811607/
I'd say I like it more in color, than bw
good samples of Heliar bokeh
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507812153/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811607/
I'd say I like it more in color, than bw
Krosya
Konicaze
that's what I found first:
good samples of Heliar bokeh
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507812153/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66588884@N00/2507811607/
I'd say I like it more in color, than bw
Those are good examples of bokeh. Me like
mackigator
Well-known
I sold mine but now I kind of miss it (predictably). In my kit I use/used the Hexanon 50mm f2 a lot more. Still, the Heliar gave me nice images and one pic I really like. I agree with all the comments about it being hard to put your finger on the character of this lens.
Some examples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarkmackey/tags/voigtlanderheliar50mmf20collapsible/
The one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarkmackey/377750597/
Some examples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarkmackey/tags/voigtlanderheliar50mmf20collapsible/
The one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarkmackey/377750597/
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I like the Heliar 2/50, though I was at first doubtful about the collapsing feature. Never had one like that, concerned about wobble and forgetting to extend & lock. Worries turned out groundless, and this compact handy lens is a fine performer. Remarkable accomplishment, really, as it has only 5 elements (in the classic Heliar configuration) compared to 7 for the Skopar 2.5/50. Pic below is wide open I think, with a bit too much yellow in the balance still...
minoltist7
pussy photographer
From pics above I noticed that Heliar has some unique feature - dark and light spots in the background looks like arranged in "circle" pattern (with center in the center of image).
I found it sometimes interesting, sometimes disturbing.
Love or hate it - but this lens has a distinctive character.
I found it sometimes interesting, sometimes disturbing.
Love or hate it - but this lens has a distinctive character.
Krosya
Konicaze
Well, I got myself convinced that I'll get one of these Heliars and do my own testing/shooting with it. I think it has a great potential, plus a somewhat collectable lens as well. So, hopefully soon I'll be posting some results from mine!
kshapero
South Florida Man
The fact that i own this lens and the ZM C Sonnar 50/1.5 makes me a unique character. Right?
Right, Akiva! And we're both unique characters because I have both lenses as well.The fact that i own this lens and the ZM C Sonnar 50/1.5 makes me a unique character. Right?
imush
Well-known
kshapero
South Florida Man
Shalom,
nice shots you might want to overexpose a half stop to bring out a little more contrast.
imush
Well-known
Yes, they look somewhat underexposed; will try to correct it with next roll.Shalom,
nice shots you might want to overexpose a half stop to bring out a little more contrast.
imush
Well-known
Since my b&w skills as of now are nothing to write home about (I am only starting after a 20-year break since my high school days in Russia), I am posting something more appropriate to boast the Heliar:
All of these were rather wide open (between 2 and 4), I don't remember exact aperture for each.



All of these were rather wide open (between 2 and 4), I don't remember exact aperture for each.
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maggieo
More Deadly
I think the 50/2 Heliar is my favorite lens.
My pix with it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediawench/tags/50mmvoigtländerheliarclassicf2/
This is probably my favorite shot that I've taken with it:
My pix with it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediawench/tags/50mmvoigtländerheliarclassicf2/
This is probably my favorite shot that I've taken with it:

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