ndnik
Established
There is no discernible IQ difference between small format film and APS-C and up sensor-sized digital at this point in time. None.
Digital trumps color big time in low light color, technically.
Why do you assume everyone chooses the medium he uses based on technical image quality alone? I think technically digital has surpassed small-format film years ago. I agree with you here. The only exception may be dynamic range and highlight separation. But I don't care about technical image quality. Good enough is good enough. The rest is aesthetics, and that is where the heart of photography is.
-N.
rogerzilla
Well-known
I believe digital (full frame) has surpassed colour film for IQ, because colour film grain is unattractive. Not black-and-white, although it *could* easily trump slow b/w films, were someone to reintroduce a digital camera with a monochrome sensor and no Bayer filter. On the other hand, you couldn't get the gritty effect of Tri-X or Neopan 1600.
But yes, the M9 is too expensive and (although the M8 IQ may be fine) the crop factor and 6-bit coding things are a major turn-off if you don't want to go and buy extra lenses. The M9 is more tolerant of older lenses and of course there's no crop factor so you don't need to buy a 28mm to get a 35mm FOV (or worse, if you wanted a 21mm FOV).
But yes, the M9 is too expensive and (although the M8 IQ may be fine) the crop factor and 6-bit coding things are a major turn-off if you don't want to go and buy extra lenses. The M9 is more tolerant of older lenses and of course there's no crop factor so you don't need to buy a 28mm to get a 35mm FOV (or worse, if you wanted a 21mm FOV).
Thomas Bertilsson
Follow Your Intuition
Shoot what you think is fun and gives you the enjoyment you want. The rest really doesn't matter.
Back into the darkroom. Found two boxes of 11x14 G2 and G3 Brovira that prints without fog... I can pretend I'm Ralph Gibson for a day.
Back into the darkroom. Found two boxes of 11x14 G2 and G3 Brovira that prints without fog... I can pretend I'm Ralph Gibson for a day.
Teuthida
Well-known
beautiful pups. dogs rock.
your photos, while nice, are clearly digital. they have tat plasticy look of all digital capture.
thats why i still love film.
your photos, while nice, are clearly digital. they have tat plasticy look of all digital capture.
thats why i still love film.
bwcolor
Veteran
beautiful pups. dogs rock.
your photos, while nice, are clearly digital. they have tat plasticy look of all digital capture.
thats why i still love film.
and why I prefer B&W silver based film vs. B&W C-41.
Of course, others prefer digital conversions and chromogenic B&W. It is just a preference and nothing absolute...either way.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
With pictures like these, where most of the work is done at the desktop, and which gives me the Black and white 'look' I like, I wonder, sometimes, if it is (still) worth all the effort to use film.
M9 + Rollei 40mm/F2.8 LTM
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Nice ... but they look flat to me! Looking at the histogram the highlights need bringing up a little.
Snowbuzz
Well-known
Ah yes, that's it, Keith: I was wondering what looked wrong about the pictures. Nice dogs!
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