Sometimes you just have to shake your head...

Deardorff38 said:
Santino, unlike a Nikon EM, a Leica CL meter can be repaired if it breaks down and some technicians like DAG do have parts.
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I think the cells die and have to be replaced. I wish there was a DAG in Europe.. Westlicht in Vienna advised me to use a handheld meter.
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
I think the thrust of my piece is not that the problem was intermittent or soluble (my experience with elderly Nikon cameras is once you have a drain it doesn't solve itself) but that the dealer, knowing full well he'd have to refund, just decided to have an entirely unnecessary argument - I was not having it back thanks!
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It's interesting that many contributors to this thread have concentrated on the problem with the camera, rather than the problem with the dealer... :confused:
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
... the dealer, knowing full well he'd have to refund, just decided to have an entirely unnecessary argument...
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Maybe he thought he was in the Monty Python Argument Clinic?

"This camera doesn't work.

Yes, it does.

No, it doesn't.

Does.

Doesn't.

Does

..."


In a similar vein, I suspect some sellers at swap meets deliberately don't have batteries in the cameras they sell. They hope you'll buy and by the time you discover metering or other issues, there's nothing you can do. Maybe it's not that explicitly dishonest - perhaps they just bring the camera to sell and they feel the burden of proof regarding operability is not on them.

This is one reason I appreciate sellers who do have batteries in their cameras - if it checks out OK, I'll buy.

Sometimes I've brought my own batteries.

Half my collection is all-manual, which is a good feeling.
 
santino said:
I think the cells die and have to be replaced. I wish there was a DAG in Europe.. Westlicht in Vienna advised me to use a handheld meter.
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Yes it's unfortunate DAG has made those repairs, mine are still working (fingers crossed)
 
tbhv55 said:
It's interesting that many contributors to this thread have concentrated on the problem with the camera, rather than the problem with the dealer... :confused:
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Indeed! The weirdness of it all is it's not like I have no track record buying more expensive things from him. But he's lost a customer - just imagine the grief if you want to return something more valuable than £35! I am out about £15, so never again.

All's well that ends well though - my friend Charles sold me his immaculate, functioning EM complete with motor drive for the price of the EM alone, and it's just arrived.

Now to get some batteries for the motordrive...(not that I really want it!).
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
The weirdness of it all is it's not like I have no track record buying more expensive things from him. But he's lost a customer
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Yes - complete madness on his part.

I must say, though, that Pan's suggestion, in his post above (#11), might be a possible explanation for the dealer's behaviour:-

p.giannakis said:
Some shops sell other people's cameras on commission - if they did the mistake of forwarding your payment to the owner (whilst keeping the commission) and you are asking for a refund, then they are in a mess. Possibly that's why they ask you 10 times if you changed your mind.
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It would still seem daft to lose an established customer over it, though.
 
It could be - I know Russell at SoPerfect here sells on commission (which he always discloses) and keeps the proceeds for a month before passing them on.

Anyway, I'm very happy to be able to get the EM finally launched - although I must say, the FM2n I used instead this weekend is a gorgeous camera.
 
What camera? Was it one where the meter runs if there's any light entering the lens (like the K1000, for example)? Would explain the batteries dying if you weren't using a lens cap.
 
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