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Pickett Wilson
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Nonsense test.
thomasw_
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That does not make or break the film game for me, as I love film for its aesthetic qualities when wet printed. But resolution testing would matter to me a little tiny bit if I were into architecture or landscape shooting. Imagine how Adox CMS 20 could resolve that!
FrankS
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Chris101
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So Puts says that film exceeds the resolution of a 10MP camera. I'll remember that the next time I am shooting a test target. Good grief!
sepiareverb
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"Perfection" has nothing to do with it. Why not tell everyone who does etchings that their resolution sucks? It is the process. I shoot film and print like a painter paints.
emraphoto
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if the measure of an image is found by puling out an microscope the image is lost on me.
wgerrard
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Ken Rockwell has picked up on this: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/00-new-today.htm#0b956409c1213452da92d59d3964bb4c, about halfway down.
You know, if the technical quality of an image was all that mattered, we'd be just has happy creating and looking at abstract patterns of tiny dots. We react to images in emotional and intellectual ways, independent of their technical attributes. It's fair to argue that the impact of a given photo might be strengthened if it had been a better technical effort. but, apart from that, why sweat it? Like language, the value of an image is determined by how people react to it.
You know, if the technical quality of an image was all that mattered, we'd be just has happy creating and looking at abstract patterns of tiny dots. We react to images in emotional and intellectual ways, independent of their technical attributes. It's fair to argue that the impact of a given photo might be strengthened if it had been a better technical effort. but, apart from that, why sweat it? Like language, the value of an image is determined by how people react to it.
mojobebop
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methinks
methinks
methinks it's what seperates art from craft.
methinks
methinks it's what seperates art from craft.
Chris101
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Ya mean whether you read Puts or Rockwell?
mojobebop
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no, i ment arts or craft.
Chris101
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Yeah, I got that part, and I got the separation part. But "it's" is what had me. What separates art from craft? I always look at the mass of the craftsman/artist. If he or she is fat (eating well) then chances are they are a craftsperson. Skinny, looking like they could use some 'spare change'? ... Artist.
nobbylon
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I think someone needs to get out of the house more often!!!
Lilserenity
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This kind of stuff drives me nuts. Be it Film and Digital, Mac and PC, iPhone and Palm Pré... It's all boring blather.
I would like to say who gives a sh..... But clearly some people do.
I'm much more bothered about the end result, for me that's the print or the projection from a slide (or laptop these days)
I'm sure there are many points that many items are 'better' in a purely technical way compared to the main competitor or alternative but really, does it matter so much when they are already so close to each other's abilities.
Some of the reaction to these debates from people verges on hysterical, as if you've called them a rude name, told them that they suck and so does everything they think, that you got it right and they are wrong wrong wrong... Before it descends into who started it. Yah, hello, sounds a bit like reception class and a bunch of 4 years olds...
All I care about is the end result. A good photo can be taken on film or digital. A really sucky photo can be taken on film. A really sucky photo can be taken on digital.
If the photographer is worth their weight in salt, they'll turn out a good picture with whatever they prefer or were shooting at the time and it's the end result that matters most to me. And if someone shoots a great landscape or a emotive portrait, my first thoughts are wow, and second, wow. Not whether that's some film interpolation in the corner or some chromatic aberation of a slug, or whatever.... All of that blather is a bunch of anal twittering. All that matters is pictures and I cannot thing of anything more soul destroying than spending your days shooting test charts, only to rush over to Photo.net ego expanded to put your findings forwards in yet another Film vs. Digital show down....
GAH! This has always gone on of course, medium format vs small format etc.
Me, I couldn't give a toss. 🙂
Enjoy photography peeps.
Vicky
I would like to say who gives a sh..... But clearly some people do.
I'm much more bothered about the end result, for me that's the print or the projection from a slide (or laptop these days)
I'm sure there are many points that many items are 'better' in a purely technical way compared to the main competitor or alternative but really, does it matter so much when they are already so close to each other's abilities.
Some of the reaction to these debates from people verges on hysterical, as if you've called them a rude name, told them that they suck and so does everything they think, that you got it right and they are wrong wrong wrong... Before it descends into who started it. Yah, hello, sounds a bit like reception class and a bunch of 4 years olds...
All I care about is the end result. A good photo can be taken on film or digital. A really sucky photo can be taken on film. A really sucky photo can be taken on digital.
If the photographer is worth their weight in salt, they'll turn out a good picture with whatever they prefer or were shooting at the time and it's the end result that matters most to me. And if someone shoots a great landscape or a emotive portrait, my first thoughts are wow, and second, wow. Not whether that's some film interpolation in the corner or some chromatic aberation of a slug, or whatever.... All of that blather is a bunch of anal twittering. All that matters is pictures and I cannot thing of anything more soul destroying than spending your days shooting test charts, only to rush over to Photo.net ego expanded to put your findings forwards in yet another Film vs. Digital show down....
GAH! This has always gone on of course, medium format vs small format etc.
Me, I couldn't give a toss. 🙂
Enjoy photography peeps.
Vicky
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