raid
Dad Photographer
I will take my family on a 12 day trip to Europe in August.
At first, there will be a 4 days stay in Ulm and surroundings, followed by a drive to Lake Como, close to the Italy-Switzerland border. Then it is off to Lake Garda, followed by Venice for two short stays there. Then, we will drive in the Alps on the Grossglockner Alpine Road to Salzburg, Austria. Then, it is to Munich.
I better keep things light and manageable, but I need very sharp lenses for lots of scenics.
I have been debating what to take along. Logic tells me to leave MF behind.
My choices have settled on these set-ups:
Leica M6 + 35/1.4 and 75/1.4
Bessa L + Canon 19mm/3.5 or CV 25/4
The set is complete.
Another option would be using two Contax G1 bodies with 28-45-90 lenses.
I will somehow make the choice. If it were you,what would you do?
At first, there will be a 4 days stay in Ulm and surroundings, followed by a drive to Lake Como, close to the Italy-Switzerland border. Then it is off to Lake Garda, followed by Venice for two short stays there. Then, we will drive in the Alps on the Grossglockner Alpine Road to Salzburg, Austria. Then, it is to Munich.
I better keep things light and manageable, but I need very sharp lenses for lots of scenics.
I have been debating what to take along. Logic tells me to leave MF behind.
My choices have settled on these set-ups:
Leica M6 + 35/1.4 and 75/1.4
Bessa L + Canon 19mm/3.5 or CV 25/4
The set is complete.
Another option would be using two Contax G1 bodies with 28-45-90 lenses.
I will somehow make the choice. If it were you,what would you do?
ferider
Veteran
I would rent a big Mercedes Diesel, Raid (GL or similar - from SiXT 
). You'll be in the car a lot and Diesel is cheaper, paying a bit more on the car and less on mileage will pay off .... Have fun !
). You'll be in the car a lot and Diesel is cheaper, paying a bit more on the car and less on mileage will pay off .... Have fun !
raid
Dad Photographer
I would rent a big Mercedes Diesel, Raid (GL or similar - from SiXT
Hi Roland,
The streets in Italy and Austria can be narrow, with an advantage for driving a smaller car. My wife prefers to take along very little luggage, and since the weather is warm, without a need for thick clothes, I opted for a small car. It is paid for, and the voucher arrived to me. A change would be very difficult now. I will try to get a Diesel car. I once reserved a Golf (gas), but when I arrived in Germany, I asked the rental agency for a Diesel,and they agreed to do so without any change in rental fees. I also prefer a Diesel.
My initial reservation was with SIXT, by the way.
HoodedOne
Well-known
Wow Raid, that is some trip you've planned. It reminds me of those japanese tourists groups. Quickly from one place to another, to snap some pics and be on there way.
You'll need a vacation after this vacation
As for what gear to bring with you. I would keep it to a minimum. One body witha couple of lenses, and a digital compact. Or two bodies with some lenses. The G1 option looks like a very good one. You could take one set of lenses with two bodies.
I hope you'll have a great time in Europe.
Btw. The Grossglockner is a great place to spent the day. Great views, especially with clear weather. Take your time for it, because there are allways a lot of tourists and bike riders on that road.
Cheers,
Hans
You'll need a vacation after this vacation
As for what gear to bring with you. I would keep it to a minimum. One body witha couple of lenses, and a digital compact. Or two bodies with some lenses. The G1 option looks like a very good one. You could take one set of lenses with two bodies.
I hope you'll have a great time in Europe.
Btw. The Grossglockner is a great place to spent the day. Great views, especially with clear weather. Take your time for it, because there are allways a lot of tourists and bike riders on that road.
Cheers,
Hans
Photon42
burn the box
Raid,
so if you decide to stay in Zurich for a day, let me know. Also if you need "local assistance"
Cheers and take care
Ivo
Edit: For Venice, you may want a wide angle. And agreed on choice for a smaller car. They can be comfortable, too.
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raid
Dad Photographer
Wow Raid, that is some trip you've planned. It reminds me of those japanese tourists groups. Quickly from one place to another, to snap some pics and be on there way.
You'll need a vacation after this vacation
As for what gear to bring with you. I would keep it to a minimum. One body witha couple of lenses, and a digital compact. Or two bodies with some lenses. The G1 option looks like a very good one. You could take one set of lenses with two bodies.
I hope you'll have a great time in Europe.
Btw. The Grossglockner is a great place to spent the day. Great views, especially with clear weather. Take your time for it, because there are allways a lot of tourists and bike riders on that road.
Cheers,
Hans
Hello Hans,
It is not as bad as it sounds. The distances between Lake Como and Lake Garda and Venice are less than 2 hours of driving, and I am staying three nights at Lake Como, and one nights at Lake Garda and at Venice.
The drives are amazingly beautiful,and it is not like driving on a boring interstate highway. The weather forecast gives clear weather for Lake Como.
I am also now thinking of a combo of one digital camera for snapshots of people (family and friends) in addition to the M6+35mm Summilux. maybe the EP-2plus the CV 25/4. Switching the CV to the M6 would make it a wide angle lens. Switching the Lux to the EP-2 makes it a short Tele, similar to a 70/1.4.
raid
Dad Photographer
Raid,
so if you decide to stay in Zurich for a day, let me know. Also if you need "local assistance"
Cheers and take care
Ivo
Edit: For Venice, you may want a wide angle.
Hello Ivo,
Thanks for the assistance offer. We will be close to Lugano, and we may take one day as a side trip inside Switzerland.
riceman
Member
Hi,
nice trip
I'm from Salzbourg, but at the moment in Nicaragua...
The selection of equipment is always hard...
Doing landscape, cityscapes and architecture I would prefer MF. Especially if you rent a car (on the co drivers womb is always space...)
In the case of your proposals, I would prefer the M6 and the Bessa.
And take film with you. In Austria its really hard or impossible to get film in a store.
safe journey and a nice stay in europe!
sincere regards
chris
nice trip
I'm from Salzbourg, but at the moment in Nicaragua...
The selection of equipment is always hard...
Doing landscape, cityscapes and architecture I would prefer MF. Especially if you rent a car (on the co drivers womb is always space...)
In the case of your proposals, I would prefer the M6 and the Bessa.
And take film with you. In Austria its really hard or impossible to get film in a store.
safe journey and a nice stay in europe!
sincere regards
chris
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HoodedOne
Well-known
Hey, that combo of the Summilux and the Skopar is really nice.
And to give you a taste, of what the Grossglockner looks like
Panorama Grossglockner 02 by HoodedOne, on Flickr
This pano was taken last year when I was on vacation with my parents (because of their wedding anniversary). For my parents (who visit Austria each year) the Grossglockner is the one thing they visit each year.
The huge white mountain in the back is the "Johannisberg" and the Grossglockner is the mountain just right from the middle of the image. In the front you see the giant glacier, and all the way on the left you can see the starting point of the glacier train. It will bring you down to the glacier, so you can walk over it.
And to give you a taste, of what the Grossglockner looks like
Panorama Grossglockner 02 by HoodedOne, on Flickr
This pano was taken last year when I was on vacation with my parents (because of their wedding anniversary). For my parents (who visit Austria each year) the Grossglockner is the one thing they visit each year.
The huge white mountain in the back is the "Johannisberg" and the Grossglockner is the mountain just right from the middle of the image. In the front you see the giant glacier, and all the way on the left you can see the starting point of the glacier train. It will bring you down to the glacier, so you can walk over it.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hi,
nice trip
I'm from Salzbourg, but at the moment in Nicaragua...
The selection of equipment is always hard...
Doing landscape, cityscapes and architecture I would prefer MF. Especially if you rent a car (on the co drivers womb is always space...)
In the case of your proposals, I would prefer the M6 and the Bessa.
And take film with you. In Austria its really hard or impossible to get film in a store.
safe journey and a nice stay in europe!
sincere regards
chris
Hello Chris,
I am also favoring manual control and reliability with the M6. I will take all I need of film with me. I will load Portra 160NC and 400NC film into film cassettes.
Thanks.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hey, that combo of the Summilux and the Skopar is really nice.
And to give you a taste, of what the Grossglockner looks like
Panorama Grossglockner 02 by HoodedOne, on Flickr
This pano was taken last year when I was on vacation with my parents (because of their wedding anniversary). For my parents (who visit Austria each year) the Grossglockner is the one thing they visit each year.
The huge white mountain in the back is the "Johannisberg" and the Grossglockner is the mountain just right from the middle of the image. In the front you see the giant glacier, and all the way on the left you can see the starting point of the glacier train. It will bring you down to the glacier, so you can walk over it.
This is a beautiful image, Hans. I share your parent's preference to visit Grossglockner. It will be my third visit to it. Thanks for the tip.
segedi
RFicianado
Raid - The wife, step-daughter and I will be in Salzurg on Aug 18 and 19th. When are you passing through? I'm also considering what to bring. Your setup seems to be darn near perfect! Am thinking about, Bessa R4A with Zeiss 25mm and M7 with 35mm 3.5 (Perar II) and 50mm Summilux. Also thinking Portra 160 and 400. And maybe Acros 100.
What does everyone think about taking 25mm and 35mm, too close or just right?
What does everyone think about taking 25mm and 35mm, too close or just right?
raid
Dad Photographer
These two focal lengths are not too close to each other.
We will be in Salzburg Aug 18/19.
Send me a pm.
raid
Dad Photographer
The Summilux duo plus the CV 25/4 may be what is a good set for such a trip. Add either a Bessa T or Olympus EP2.
andredossantos
Well-known
My travel kit: 2 M Bodies, 1 Rolleiflex.
Medium format is made for this type of trip especially. Light, easy to carry, etc.
Medium format is made for this type of trip especially. Light, easy to carry, etc.
raid
Dad Photographer
I could do this too. How about a tripod?
andredossantos
Well-known
Haigh
Gary Haigh
Raid, I don't know about gear-I only take an M4 and a p&s digital and just a 35 summicron. I would suggest definitely going to Como and hop on ferries but I personally might not go to Garda. Only thing is Garda may be less busy than Como in August. Lake Como is drop dead beautiful.
Bon voyage.
Bon voyage.
raid
Dad Photographer
We first included Lake Garda, then deleted it from the itinerary, but then settled for a one day stay there. Some of the photos of Lake Garda look very beautiful. We have a car with us, so if things get boring anywhere, we will drive around the region anyways. It may be smart to keep the equipment to a minimum.
raid
Dad Photographer
Nah. Won't need it.
Though oddly, perhaps a UV filter or two. This might be the one time they actually do something if you're shooting up in the mountains.
I have never used [deliberately] filters with RF cameras, but I may have most lenses protected by some filters anyways.