hausen
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XD7 was my first serious camera. Still have it and is a great camera for the money.
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sparrow6224
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I'm surprised you don't simply go for an FE or an FM -- they're selling in the US for less than $60 most of the time. You won't get a fifty with it in all likelihood but for 75 Euro or you could have the camera with the 50/1.8 Nikon E series lens, which is quite good. (The 35mm and 100mm E series lenses are also great).
Where I live and shop USA, (eBay and the like) the OM2 is more expensive than the FE/FM. The Minolta XE is a good choice but the XD's tend not to hold up, have electronic problems.
Where I live and shop USA, (eBay and the like) the OM2 is more expensive than the FE/FM. The Minolta XE is a good choice but the XD's tend not to hold up, have electronic problems.
Dirk
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I'd recommend the Konica T3 as you have big hands. The OM2 won't be the right fit for you. The body plus 50mm 1.7 (go for the old version with EE instead of AE on it) will give you that old-fashioned feeling with excellent image quality.
Similarly, a Nikon EL2 is made great and you'll be able to use AI lenses if and when you get a digital SLR.
Similarly, a Nikon EL2 is made great and you'll be able to use AI lenses if and when you get a digital SLR.
Contarama
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With your specs and being that you already own Leica I would get one of the R cameras.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
His main spec was that he cannot afford a Nikon F3 with Nikon lens...
Chris101
summicronia
Check out Nikon FG. Meets most of your criteria, especially price.
NeeZee
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Thanks again everyone!
As some of you said, I just really want to try an FE I think, so I'll just wait for a good deal on one. I might be able to get a working black body at around 50€. The girlfriend still has a Nikon E Series 50mm she doesn't use, so I'd be ready to start and if it's fun I can still get other lenses...
As some of you said, I just really want to try an FE I think, so I'll just wait for a good deal on one. I might be able to get a working black body at around 50€. The girlfriend still has a Nikon E Series 50mm she doesn't use, so I'd be ready to start and if it's fun I can still get other lenses...
oftheherd
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Looks like you have made your choice for some good reasons. But if you still have any doubts, you might want to check out the Fujica ST901. It doesn't get any love here at RFF, but is a good capable camera. Your criteria:
Must haves:
- aperture priority (shutter priority might be ok as well) - Has that from EV-3 to EV 18 at ISO 100.
- manual exposure mode - Manual mode from 1/60 to 1/1000 and B. Manual mode is mechanical, not dependent on batteries.
- easily accessible AE lock function - If you mean locking shutter release (which ativates the meter) so you can't run down batteries, it has that. If you mean exposure lock, no, it doesn't have that.
- price: body + 50mm (f1.7-2.0) standard lens < 50€ - I have no idea what they sell for in Europe.
- all metal black body - Hard to find one that isn't black body, but they do exist.
- hefty construction, 'classic look' (thinking of the fe or om again) - They sure do have that.
Nice to have:
- no mercury cells - Use a 544 battery, no mercury.
- shutter speed display in finder - Has that with led. Unlike most, for 1/1000 you get an actual 1000 by led, or for 1/30, you get 30 by led. So even in dim light, you know for sure what you are getting for a shutter speed. There is also an aperture reading with Fujica lenses, but it it not lighted.
- rather fe size than om size (I've got huge hands) - I don't know the size of the FE, but it is larger by a bit than an OM 10 I have.
Another advantage is that it is M42 mount, and will take any M42 mount unless there is a mechanical problem, such as some Mamiya lenses. You can use stop down aperture metering with the depth of field control, and lock it in DOF mode for ease of use.
As I said, they don't get any love here in RFF, but they are a good and durable camera. I have had my original one for a couple of years shy of 40. I have had no problems with it. The Fujinon lenses are a little expensive, but always worth every penny.
Probably even more features would be the Yashica FX 103. You might want to check it out, but I think the older M42 Yashica lenses are a little better, and the great Contax lenses sound like out of your budget.
Neither of the above are Nikons, but imho worth a look at least.
Must haves:
- aperture priority (shutter priority might be ok as well) - Has that from EV-3 to EV 18 at ISO 100.
- manual exposure mode - Manual mode from 1/60 to 1/1000 and B. Manual mode is mechanical, not dependent on batteries.
- easily accessible AE lock function - If you mean locking shutter release (which ativates the meter) so you can't run down batteries, it has that. If you mean exposure lock, no, it doesn't have that.
- price: body + 50mm (f1.7-2.0) standard lens < 50€ - I have no idea what they sell for in Europe.
- all metal black body - Hard to find one that isn't black body, but they do exist.
- hefty construction, 'classic look' (thinking of the fe or om again) - They sure do have that.
Nice to have:
- no mercury cells - Use a 544 battery, no mercury.
- shutter speed display in finder - Has that with led. Unlike most, for 1/1000 you get an actual 1000 by led, or for 1/30, you get 30 by led. So even in dim light, you know for sure what you are getting for a shutter speed. There is also an aperture reading with Fujica lenses, but it it not lighted.
- rather fe size than om size (I've got huge hands) - I don't know the size of the FE, but it is larger by a bit than an OM 10 I have.
Another advantage is that it is M42 mount, and will take any M42 mount unless there is a mechanical problem, such as some Mamiya lenses. You can use stop down aperture metering with the depth of field control, and lock it in DOF mode for ease of use.
As I said, they don't get any love here in RFF, but they are a good and durable camera. I have had my original one for a couple of years shy of 40. I have had no problems with it. The Fujinon lenses are a little expensive, but always worth every penny.
Probably even more features would be the Yashica FX 103. You might want to check it out, but I think the older M42 Yashica lenses are a little better, and the great Contax lenses sound like out of your budget.
Neither of the above are Nikons, but imho worth a look at least.
wblynch
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I would like to suggest the OM-2S Program, with it's spot metering, aperture priority or full program modes. Plus is has manual operation at 1/60th and B in case the non-mercury batteries die.
An alternative could be the OM-40/OM-PC. It's a 'consumer' version of the OM-2S but it has the ESP metering which is unique to the OM line. Works splendidly for slides.
An alternative could be the OM-40/OM-PC. It's a 'consumer' version of the OM-2S but it has the ESP metering which is unique to the OM line. Works splendidly for slides.
shadowfox
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I'm not trying to be tacky linking to a thread I started, but it seems to fit the requirements asked by the NeeZee.
To be exact: Mamiya NC1000. It's a system camera with unbelievably good lenses in its line up.
Pics and everything else you need: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119497
To be exact: Mamiya NC1000. It's a system camera with unbelievably good lenses in its line up.
Pics and everything else you need: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119497
Roger Hicks
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Programs are for wimps. Buy a real SLR: no meter, no batteries. Nikon F!
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
Ronny
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I agree with Roger.
Take the F.
The Camera with no Problems.
Take the F.
The Camera with no Problems.
MikeDimit
Established
Minolta is the choice. I would advice SRTs - very, very good focusing, extra heavy and large compared to XGs . I use XG 9 with a motor drive because my hands are not small. Lenses in MD mount are cheap and very different.
wakarimasen
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Nikon FE: a very nice camera indeed
NeeZee
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Nikon F? Doesn't that thing have advance/rewind levers and a back door? Totally wimpy...
Range-rover
Veteran
I just purchased a Olympus OM-4 and I really like it, it has a great meter
in it and it's build really well, but the OM1 and 2 are sweet as well.
Range
P.S. Take the batteries out of a OM-1 it's a real SLR as well.
in it and it's build really well, but the OM1 and 2 are sweet as well.
Range
P.S. Take the batteries out of a OM-1 it's a real SLR as well.
rolfe
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Nikon FE, FM, FM2, FM3 as budget allows. The OM crowd has it's followers, but all the lenses are getting long in tooth and are relatively harder to find than their Nikon conterparts. For the pure Nikon experience, an F or F2 with plain prism.
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