GaryLH
Veteran
Yeh. I remember that Sug
I didn't realize it was auto ND. That cooool.. Hey GF takes priority.
Thanks
Gary
So, using the GR's 35mm crop mode basically acts like a 10mp m4/3 sized sensor?
MikeAUS
Well-known
Did you expect anything else at a massive Ricoh fan site
I'm not saying I don't like my GR but I am a little disappointed so far. I still prefer the RX100 for now. I hope you like it!
Can you explain why>?
lam
Well-known
I forgot to mention I set my "fn2" button to 35mm crop, because as it's primarily a LCD use camera, the 35mm crop allows me to get 35 view without having to crop later. I think that's better than smart crop, or sitting there in post cropping the photos. I find using the GRD best when i'm processing less.
I really like the RX-100 too, stretch pano mode, superb video recording, even more compact, perfect sensor size and lens combo.. rather cheap now.. 24 MEGAPIXELLSSS.
Really can't go wrong between the two, it's a matter of preference.
Only gripe about both, the charging situation..
For the Ricoh I bought an original charger and some batteries--made sure it fit the GRD IV and GR V of course (some people had issue).
I really like the RX-100 too, stretch pano mode, superb video recording, even more compact, perfect sensor size and lens combo.. rather cheap now.. 24 MEGAPIXELLSSS.
Really can't go wrong between the two, it's a matter of preference.
Only gripe about both, the charging situation..
For the Ricoh I bought an original charger and some batteries--made sure it fit the GRD IV and GR V of course (some people had issue).
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
You guys are not helping
I am not by any means a serial digital camera buyer, but handling the GR in my hands a couple of weeks ago almost pushed me off the cliff. It retains all that I like about the GR series + the much bigger sensor.
Another plus is being able to use that optical viewfinder that I have recently grow to like and use on my GRD 4.
I am not by any means a serial digital camera buyer, but handling the GR in my hands a couple of weeks ago almost pushed me off the cliff. It retains all that I like about the GR series + the much bigger sensor.
Another plus is being able to use that optical viewfinder that I have recently grow to like and use on my GRD 4.
umcelinho
Marcelo
he GR really is tempting, also because with the wide angle adapter it can be a 21mm dedicated camera in a kit with another camera for normal/normal wide.... but I'm not sure if it'd replace my RX100 well, because even though most of the time i'm shooting at 28mm equiv, I see myself surprisingly using 100mm often (with rangefinders I only go up to 50mm). So for an all around compact I'm not so sure if I'd enjoy having the wide angle only.
GaryLH
Veteran
Yeah.. One of the main reasons I am holding onto the rx100.. I shoot enough at the tele end as well. I will have to c/ how well the crop images hold up. The good thing compare to others... Is that I don't tend to print big. Max is 13x19 with normal being 8x10 to 11x14.
But on the other hand, as fast as the af is on the rx100, there have been times I have missed the shot. What has always attracted me back to Ricoh was snap focus.
Gary
giellaleafapmu
Well-known
The first sentence does not apply to me exactly because of what you say in your second sentence, I cannot believe they managed to have an integrated VF in the film camera but cannot squeeze one in the digital version. I'd rather have a camera which measures, say, 0.5" more in height than fiddling with an accessory VF on a camera which does not have interchangeable lenses. It is still a very nice camera tough.
GLF
GaryLH
Veteran
Did you expect anything else at a massive Ricoh fan site
Actually there are enough opinionated personalities
:angel:, on rff that if soething was not right about the camera, I expect to hear it. Thanks
Gary
giellaleafapmu
Well-known
Yep, I perfectly understand having a visual aid but I would like to have that aid and still shot the picture using the whole sensor and crop later to get the best of both worlds.
GLF
GaryLH
Veteran
Too me.. Both Nikon Coolpix A and Ricoh GR had a team of product line managers that decided that there was a niche they could exploit by offering a apsc size sensor camera that could fit into someone's pocket.
The Sony rx100 was a bow shot that took a lot of other camera companies by surprise. What we c in both these cameras is what I believe is their respective answers.
Anyway weren't the prior version of the grd the same type of setup, no evf?
The camera I still want to c from Ricoh is a gxr replacement. I would expect that to have a built-in evf this time around.
Gary
giellaleafapmu
Well-known
Yep, all digital Ricohs did not have any sort of VF, I was referring to the original film GR.
GLF
GaryLH
Veteran
Now that I have the gr on the way. I have been thinking.. What a great pairing. My dp2m and the gr. 45/28 setup. Same battery and charger. What a super light hi iq vacation setup. Plus a 21 when the gw-3 finally releases in US .
Gary
. Gary
aleksanderpolo
Established
Ya, you got 21, 28, and 45. Just need a batman style utility belt full of batteries and you are all set.
Wouldn't it be great if Sigma partner with Ricoh to make Foveon module, then you get to have Ricoh's control/body with Foveon sensor, less bodies to carry.
Wouldn't it be great if Sigma partner with Ricoh to make Foveon module, then you get to have Ricoh's control/body with Foveon sensor, less bodies to carry.
MikeAUS
Well-known
I had very high expectations due to the APS-C sensor vs the RX100. I've had 2 other Ricohs, I don't like the interface and menus, shutter and the dials. They can be slow to meter/focus. Snap mode again is overrated. Colors I don't like - i'm not sure if the DNG play well in lightroom. The build and output quality of the Fuji XE1 which I have is much much better than GR. It is also easier and nicer to use. And yes I know the GR and all Ricohs are 'dream' cameras made for photographers. I was wanting Coolpix A but now the A$ is down its a big price gap b/w GR.
On the + side it is super small and light - almost too light. I will probably sell it as I can do the same with RX100 which I love and the results are better. I am bitterly disappointed that RX100 ii had no major sensor improvement ...
Thanks for answering my question. So you are saying the RX100 has better IQ than the Ricoh for what you do?
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Trust me, I am a big proponent of built-in VF and I have the same exact expectation as you do towards an eventual (???) digital Ricoh GR that has a full-frame sensor *and* a built in viewfinder as their film ancestor.
But that camera is probably at best a few years away if that. What can we do in the meantime? I would not make any concessions for any other cameras, point in case, I have zero interest in any of the Sony offerings.
It is *solely* because the successful form and control designs that I have been making exceptions and buy the digital GR series.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Gary, none of the attributes you mention are why I sold my X100S and bought the GR. The reason I'm happy with it because I take it with me everywhere. Its size and ergonomics make for THE BEST carry-everywhere camera. The 16MP sensor is good enough. The features like the sharp 28mm lens, super quick focusing, etc. are good enough. No feature of a camera can outweigh it being at hand when the moment arises. The GR sits at hand perfectly (and in a coat pocket).
GaryLH
Veteran
Gary, none of the attributes you mention are why I sold my X100S and bought the GR. The reason I'm happy with it because I take it with me everywhere. Its size and ergonomics make for THE BEST carry-everywhere camera. The 16MP sensor is good enough. The features like the sharp 28mm lens, super quick focusing, etc. are good enough. No feature of a camera can outweigh it being at hand when the moment arises. The GR sits at hand perfectly (and in a coat pocket).
True.. But having major issue w/ any of these items would have persuaded me to just keep using my rx100 instead. The rx100 iq is already good enough for me except in two areas
- I wished it did better above iso 800.. Granted the 1.8 vs 2.8 diff wide open, we are essentially talking about 1.3 stops diff. So gr at iso 2000 is equiv to rx100s iso 800. The gr stuff I have seen looks better at iso 3200 then what I have done at iso 800.
- af speed was a tad faster. Even if gr has same af lock speed, it has snap focus to make up..
I never intended my x100 to be my carry everywhere everyday camera btw, its too big for that IMHO.
Gary