Stop my from buying a DSLR, please.

[anandi]

Yes a *******ization of that old "take my wife, please joke"

Recently got a *ist DS and you know what as my first DSLR I really like it. My problem is that the K10D has dropped in price significantly (and into my 'wife won't kill me' range). So I need talking out of it. Really.
Tell me the Shake reduction is a gimmick and that it's noisy high ISO and the 10 MP vs. 6 MP doesn't mean anything in the real world. If this forum can whip up GAS it should help those in need of support too. 🙂

 

[peterm1]

Nope I cant help. Sorry! I have just done almost exactly the same thing but with a Panasonic L1. To paraphrase an old quotation "All time is wasted thats not spent messing about with cameras."

 

[RF-Addict]

Sorry, can't help you - all the features you mentioned REALLY do make a difference. Go and get that K10D for Xmas.

 

[photogdave]

Sorry, but it's a fantastic camera. If you twisted my arm and forced me into a DSLR it would probably be the K10D and two or three of those sweet Limited primes.
You really can't beat this stuff for the price. I don't know about back east but here in Van the K10D is just over $700 - very tempting! My local shop stocks and even rents most of the Limiteds and the new fast zooms too!
Tough luck buddy.😉

 

[RayPA]

I can't help either. I have a DSLR and I like it. I like my RFs, too. You can co-exist with both. You won't vaporize if you have both. If there's one you want, and it is in that "special" range. Go for it!

.

 

[slm]

Dropped in price eh.....
BTW, in body anti shake technology works very well. I have a minolta 7d.

 

[KEH]

Here is a link to the dreadful image quality you get with the Canon 40D 🙄 :

http://www.pbase.com/kirkh/40d&page=all

I had an istDS2 and liked it a lot. The 10D has a lot more to offer. Sean Reid will be reviewing it some time soon, so you might want to check it out.

Cheers,
Kirk

 

[anandi]

Geez,
I guess I should stop going to the pub to ask for help with my drinking problem, too. Yeah $700 CDN is a pretty nice price for something close to a Nikon D200...

 

[crawdiddy]

What's a *ist DS ???

What's a *ist DS ???

Recently got a *ist DS and you know what as my first DSLR I really like it.


Hate to be dense, but what is a *ist DS ?

 

[anandi]

Here is a link to the dreadful image quality you get with the Canon 40D 🙄 :

http://www.pbase.com/kirkh/40d&page=all


Cheers,
Kirk

Very nice, though methinks the photog has as much to do with it as the camera in this case. Pretty stunning IQ as well as composition there. If I got a 40D I wouldn't be able to get glass to do it justice. All those 'L' lenses would ruin me 😉

 

[anandi]

Recently got a *ist DS and you know what as my first DSLR I really like it.


Hate to be dense, but what is a *ist DS ?

It's Pentax's 2nd DSLR. 6 MP body that's sort of an entry-level to mid-range camera. It's about 3-4 years old. Maybe in Canon FD terms it was sort of the Canon A-1 of it's time?

 

[Steve Bellayr]

That is $700 w/o the lens. You are buying it because the price came down? If you don't own a Leica M6 then I'd put my money towards that camera. Why do you need shake reduction if you shoot at 125. Don't need it at 60. Buy a soft release for $15 and go down to 30 or even 15.

 

[tedwhite]

I have used the hell out of my Pentax istDS and it still works flawlessly after 3K images. As a photographer trained with film, I refrain from snapping away, as many will do with a DSLR, which accounts for the low count after nearly three years of use.

Will I get the K10D? Probably, though many Pentax aficionados tell me that with more megapixels you get more noise at higher ISO settings.

Seems like the solution is to keep the istDS for use in low light settings and use the K10D for everything else. I think the price for the K10D now is under $600?


Plus you get RAW and in-body image stabilization with the K10D.

And hey, CRAWDIDY - as an owner of a *istDS I can say without equivocation that it's the stupidest name ever given to a very, very good camera.

Ted

 

[JoeFriday]

lately I've been seeing the K10D with kit lens at around $650.. and yes, the shake reduction makes a very big difference in some situations

I've been looking very hard at that same Pentax and keep talking myself into buying it (then talking myself out of buying it.. it's in and out, all night long sometimes)

 

[Kim Coxon]

No can do! The K10 is a quantum improvement over the DS. I have the D and wasn't sure about the K10. I now have 2 K10 bodies. It is worth keeping the DS though. It has the pentaprism and is more compatible with some of the older Pentax kit such as TTL flash. (The K10 will only do P-TTL)

Kim

Yes a *******ization of that old "take my wife, please joke"

Recently got a *ist DS and you know what as my first DSLR I really like it. My problem is that the K10D has dropped in price significantly (and into my 'wife won't kill me' range). So I need talking out of it. Really.
Tell me the Shake reduction is a gimmick and that it's noisy high ISO and the 10 MP vs. 6 MP doesn't mean anything in the real world. If this forum can whip up GAS it should help those in need of support too. 🙂

 

[ampguy]

I've been very tempted by the low price of these as well, and enjoyed my *ist DL a lot. I still have some nice K mount lenses, but am holding out to see how low the D40x and good glass for it goes.

 

[photobizzz]

That is $700 w/o the lens. You are buying it because the price came down? If you don't own a Leica M6 then I'd put my money towards that camera. Why do you need shake reduction if you shoot at 125. Don't need it at 60. Buy a soft release for $15 and go down to 30 or even 15.

Well I can give you one good reason I bought the K10D, I purchased a Pentax SMC 300/4 for $150, and I like to take wildlife photos with my SLR/DSLR and so I have a 450mm f4 image stabilized lens for $150. Not to mention the umpteen other functions like multiple image stacking (in camera) that cannot be performed on any rangefinder.

 

[rover]

The "entry level" DSLRs are finally coming down to a reasonable price range. I too have been tempted again. To fight the urge though I have started to consider getting the Canon 35/1.4 L lens. Nothing like a $1000 lens to sober you up. I was a little disappointed in the price of Pentax's new 2.8 standard zooms. The price is not that much less at all than the Canon offering which has the IS in the lens. Both the Canon and Pentax though are supposed to be excellent.

 

[Solinar]

Nothing like a $1000 lens to sober you up.

Isn't that the beauty of the diminutive K10 - The IS / VR system is built into the sensor. Does Pentax offer some fast primes in the 30mm range? If not, Sigma may.

 

[photobizzz]

I was a little disappointed in the price of Pentax's new 2.8 standard zooms. The price is not that much less at all than the Canon offering which has the IS in the lens. Both the Canon and Pentax though are supposed to be excellent.

I personally went with Tokina, I purchased a 20-35 2.8 ATX and 28-80 2.8 ATX for my zooms. I think I paid around $850 for both brand new.