B&H prices, the Pentax is about $900 compared to the Canon at $1000. It is happening slowly, but we are getting to the point where there will be excellent bodies at give away prices just offered so the manufacturers will be able to sell lenses. Just like the old day of the film Rebel and Elan series. Fast primes are still the best way to go, but you still pay a good bit for anything fast wider than 50mm.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
The 31mm F1.8 Ltd is one of the best lenses Pentax has made. For manual focussing there are several very good 28/s's.
Kim
Kim
Solinar said:Isn't that the beauty of the diminutive K10 - The IS / VR system is built into the sensor. Does Pentax offer some fast primes in the 30mm range? If not, Sigma may.
djonesii
Well-known
Sorry, there is no way to talk you out of a dSLR for birding, and sports ..... They are just too good at those applicaitons. For a carry around light camera that for me is really fun, try a RF! .... as the Brits say hourses for courses
( well the ryhme, damn u's )
Dave
( well the ryhme, damn u's )
Dave
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
I'm still thinking of a K100 for web use. Sorry, but you should buy one, if you really want one.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
The advantage of Pentax having the SR based in the body is that it works with all lenses including all the MF K lenses going back to the 70's and the M42 ones with an adapter. With the Canon system, you have to have an IS lens.
Kim
Kim
rover said:The "entry level" DSLRs are finally coming down to a reasonable price range. I too have been tempted again. To fight the urge though I have started to consider getting the Canon 35/1.4 L lens. Nothing like a $1000 lens to sober you up. I was a little disappointed in the price of Pentax's new 2.8 standard zooms. The price is not that much less at all than the Canon offering which has the IS in the lens. Both the Canon and Pentax though are supposed to be excellent.
T
tedwhite
Guest
Like Photobizz, I too have the 300/4 Super Takumar (incredible lens) that I bought also for $150. It has its own tripod mount and is ideal for bird photography with a DS or a K10D.
How did I justify buying a DSLR? Easy to answer. I can now provide clients with images on a CD or prints either the same day I shoot the job or the day after. They love it.
And, for photojournalism also. Last December I photographed a political event, went home, sent the newspaper the pics as email attachments. The editor said, "Yours got here first, so you get the check."
Ted
Ted
How did I justify buying a DSLR? Easy to answer. I can now provide clients with images on a CD or prints either the same day I shoot the job or the day after. They love it.
And, for photojournalism also. Last December I photographed a political event, went home, sent the newspaper the pics as email attachments. The editor said, "Yours got here first, so you get the check."
Ted
Ted
gavinlg
Veteran
Do it, you'll have heaps of fun with it.
kevin m
Veteran
The cool thing about having a DSLR is that it takes the pressure off your rangefinder body to be your "do everything" camera. You can use it when it's the right tool for the job, or just because it gives you pleasure to use it, but you no longer have the stress of forcing the camera to do things it's no good at.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
KEH said:Here is a link to the dreadful image quality you get with the Canon 40D:
http://www.pbase.com/kirkh/40d&page=all
Geeez man, terrible indeed
photogdave
Shops local
I don't understand. The D40x is no where near the camera that the K10D is. Then you have to shell out for additional glass, and it will be more expensive than Pentax especially if you want IS.ampguy said:I've been very tempted by the low price of these as well, and enjoyed my *ist DL a lot. I still have some nice K mount lenses, but am holding out to see how low the D40x and good glass for it goes.
For the low price of a K10D you essentially get a D200 body with the ability to use all your K lenses and they've now become image stabilized!
Not to mention the cool Pentax features Nikon doesn't have like instant RAW button, 2 RAW modes, in-camera RAW processing, self-cleaning sensor etc.
Can you tell I like the Pentax?!
mike_j
Established
Think of all those lovely old Takamur lenses you will be able to use. Pentax give excellent support for legacy lens users, unlike Olympus.
kevin m
Veteran
The biggest Pentax lure, and I've never even shot with one, is the lovely line of compact prime lenses they offer for the cropped sensor cameras. It makes them unique in the industry.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
K10D is good.
SHake reduction is N O T a gimmick.
But you can't focus it manually.
Even if you have extremely good eyes and plenty of time.
My friend is sending it back to Pentax, because the manual focus is considerably misaligned. Not noticeable under f/5.6 so probably many people don't care, but at f/2 and closer focus, it's terrible.
SHake reduction is N O T a gimmick.
But you can't focus it manually.
Even if you have extremely good eyes and plenty of time.
My friend is sending it back to Pentax, because the manual focus is considerably misaligned. Not noticeable under f/5.6 so probably many people don't care, but at f/2 and closer focus, it's terrible.
photogdave
Shops local
Sounds like a problem with his specific body, not the camera model in general. I've shot with it and not experienced this problem.Pherdinand said:K10D is good.
SHake reduction is N O T a gimmick.
But you can't focus it manually.
Even if you have extremely good eyes and plenty of time.
My friend is sending it back to Pentax, because the manual focus is considerably misaligned. Not noticeable under f/5.6 so probably many people don't care, but at f/2 and closer focus, it's terrible.
JNewell
Leica M Recidivist
Can't. I bought a D100 because it would mount a number of AF Nikkors I had (most of my Nikkors are MF, but I have several good AF lenses) and because I found one that was almost LNIB for $350. I wanted to put my toe in the water slowly. Big mistake - it's darned nice. I may upgrade when the D300 has finished knocking the stuffing out of D200 used prices...
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Sorry, usually I would discourage people from buying stuff based on impulse, but at this point I am enamored with the M42 lenses and bodies.
A K10D with M42 to K adaptor will instantly give you access to thousands of *VERYGOOD* lenses out there, some of them are outrageously cheap.
Go ahead, realize my dream
A K10D with M42 to K adaptor will instantly give you access to thousands of *VERYGOOD* lenses out there, some of them are outrageously cheap.
Go ahead, realize my dream
Kim Coxon
Moderator
I agree with Dave on this. I tend to use MF most of the time and I don't have a problem with either of my bodies. I suspect it is a rogue body. A bit like an RF patch being out really.
Kim
Kim
Pherdinand said:But you can't focus it manually.
Even if you have extremely good eyes and plenty of time.
My friend is sending it back to Pentax, because the manual focus is considerably misaligned. Not noticeable under f/5.6 so probably many people don't care, but at f/2 and closer focus, it's terrible.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
If you are talking about the Ltd's ie 31, 43 and 77, they are full frame lenses and work perfectly on the film bodies as well.
Kim
Kim
kevin m said:The biggest Pentax lure, and I've never even shot with one, is the lovely line of compact prime lenses they offer for the cropped sensor cameras. It makes them unique in the industry.
kevin m
Veteran
Kim, right! Those, and the 21 f3.2 and 40 f2.8, which, I believe, are digital only lenses. Makes it mighty tempting to consider a Pentax body.
ChrisN
Striving
I think he's referring to the DA 21, DA 40 and DA 70 pancakes.
More support for the K10D - it is everything mentioned above, and more. The big thing about the K10D over the *ist DS (I have both) is the ergonomics and instant access to the full feature set through the improved controls.
More support for the K10D - it is everything mentioned above, and more. The big thing about the K10D over the *ist DS (I have both) is the ergonomics and instant access to the full feature set through the improved controls.
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