street photography the video ;)

ghost said:
i doubt it's an la vs. ny thing. i mean, i laughed. just because you have a camera doesn't automatically make you everyone's friend, either. that sounds more like overcompensating. =P

I would offer to help with or without the camera. Guess it's just me 😛

Although I did find myself mesmerized by the red dot on the camera... everytime he'd flap his arms around (like a new yorker, hahah), I kept following the camera hand, watching the red dot 😛
 
kbg32 said:
I never said they weren't. I find the video entertaining, but extremely ridiculous. And Jamie, I don't have to give him a break. None of us do. E for effort - why sure. You put yourself out like that, you should be able to withstand the criticism whether good or bad. For me, the video doesn't garner him any respect.

Some of us liked it, some of us didn't. Enough said.

Peace.

Well with the "To think, he became the "official" photographer of 9/11" remark I thought you were implying that the photos weren't good. My mistake...english is not my first language.

Also, my remark about giving him a break was not meant to take too seriously. For all I care you can criticize him all you want. I myself am not particularly impressed by most of his work (but this is more or less irrelevant).

IMHO the video, although it's ridiculous at times, is not as useless as some others found it to be. Of course on a forum for rangefinder users the video shows nothing new but there are lots of people who don't have the slightest idea where to start when it comes to street photography.

I do admit that I was and still am defending him a little against your criticism of him going to a safe place to shoot the video, simply because I think it's the "how" and not the "where" that counts.


Anyways...I think I've already written way too much in this post. I wasn't being that serious about my previous remarks. I certainly wasn't trying to start a big disagreement with everyone who didn't like the video...because...well...we all saw the outfit.
 
terrafirmanada said:
Was it supposed to be a parody? I must watch it again.

I thought it was kind of crazy too. The way he was getting in peoples faces would get me a foot up my ass. The funny thing is, this guys no goofball. He's a respected photographer. He's done some pretty good stuff after 9/11 and has shows, etc.

Still, I don't see how he can get away with being so aggressive. Maybe its a New York thing.

Rex
 
Jamie123 said:
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IMHO the video, although it's ridiculous at times, is not as useless as some others found it to be. Of course on a forum for rangefinder users the video shows nothing new but there are lots of people who don't have the slightest idea where to start when it comes to street photography.

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I agree, and it's why I liked the video. I've never seen another photographer's approach to shooting on the street, especially someone as suuccessful as Meyerowiz. I can only imagine that these were/are the same techniques that Winogrand used—since Meyerowitz shot with him. You can laugh at the costume (which I did), and the "moon-walking" (as he tracked the action down the street), but he really brings his points across. He really was right up in peoples face, without being aggressive, and he was getting some really good shots. I think I picked up some tips that I can use.

I agree with Keith, though. This may not be a universal technique. Shooting in a different neighborhood would probably require a completely different technique. Take what you can from the video. If you find no value, then that's fine.

🙂
 
i don't think i'll ever make a video for you guys😉

he was wearing gloves which suggests it was a cold day, thus the hat. i doubt he would wear it in summer. part of street shooting is to keep moving, which he was showing. i also think you have to stay put at times.
the walking backwards was new for me, i don't do that. i wonder if he did that for the camera (video) or if that's his normal technique?
i also tend to think that the video was made for newbies to the street and in that context there was some good info there.
 
I think his agressiveness came across as silliness. If anyone acted that way on the street of NYC, running up to someone with a camera, I'm sure someone in a different neighborhood would have "flattened" him. I think what was saving him was the fact that there was someone else there filming him.
 
rool said:
I really like his street stuff, it's very good. His other stuff, I don't care that much about and the all-black outfit, I'm really not sure about that... I would find it rather scary if a guy like that took a pic of me in the street!!

The all-black outfit isn't out of the ordinary in NY City, so I'm sure he didn't frighten anyone.

I'm surprised that so may people had such a harsh reaction to the video. It's not really a documentary. It's more of an exaggerated illustration of doing street photography in NY. Taking it for what it is, I don't see anything remarkable or objectionable about the video.
 
kbg32 said:
I think his agressiveness came across as silliness. If anyone acted that way on the street of NYC, running up to someone with a camera, I'm sure someone in a different neighborhood would have "flattened" him. I think what was saving him was the fact that there was someone else there filming him.

Though I don't know NYC, I'm pretty sure you're right. People see the video camera, and think: oh well, another stupid TV program.
Marc
 
just watch it towards the end of the video. He's walking backwards on the zebra, almost walking through a poor girl, she has to go out of his way reeeeally far. There are more scenes like this, but this was the most eyecatching for me.
Yes i think he was aggressive.
I like though that he pays attention to alot of scenes around.
I would not expect him getting all great shots during such a short movie-making. None of the shots shown were particularly interesting to me, but as he said you can't predict/direct a photograph. He picked a day to make a movie and used what he got on that day, that hour, those minutes.

His way of talking, explaining the thing is just very american. Not my cup of coffee, but I got a bit used to it so i think i can ignore the blah blah and the excessive drama and the rest is, yes, somewhat useful.

Thanks for the link.

PS: the outfit: Come on, it was a cold day. He does look a bit like Leon the Professional, but i'm sure there were people looking much more weird than him, on the street.
 
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