pschauss
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I just received one of these from Cupog and I note that it does not have little sliding covers for the red windows on the back like my other folders. I know from my experience with my other folders that if you don't cover these, you get a faint image of the window on the negative. What do others do about this?
Second question: Modern 120 film has three sets of numbers printed on the backing paper, one for 6x9, one for 6X6, and another for 6x4.5. On this camera the red windows are near the upper side of the back cover and the film feeds from left to right. Are the windows going to display the 6x9 or the 6x4.5 numbers?
By the way, I am seriously amazed at how small this camera is. This is a medium format camera that I can actually put in my pocket, the medium format equivalent of an Olympus XA.
Second question: Modern 120 film has three sets of numbers printed on the backing paper, one for 6x9, one for 6X6, and another for 6x4.5. On this camera the red windows are near the upper side of the back cover and the film feeds from left to right. Are the windows going to display the 6x9 or the 6x4.5 numbers?
By the way, I am seriously amazed at how small this camera is. This is a medium format camera that I can actually put in my pocket, the medium format equivalent of an Olympus XA.
chippy
foo was here
red windows; either cover them with tape (or similar) that you can peel back to see the red windows or a much more dificult way is to atatch a sliding red window cover from another camera to the back with micro srew and nut or tapping a thread into the back door, or i dont find much trouble with the light coming through the paper but more the light bouncing around behind the pressure plate and getting to the film that way, so one remedy is to use modern foam light seals used for slr's etc and either seal around the red window between the pressure plate and back door or all around the edge of the pressure plate, thats been enough for me.
some of the cases designed for those cameras had lift up flaps in the leather to view the red windows, or the case when opened for shooting uncovered them, when closed protects them, dont wind on in strong light, always turn your back to the sun etc..
the camera is reading the 6x9 numbers, first wind on to see the number in the first window and then wind on until you see the same number in the second...to begin with they didnt print numbers solely for 6x4.5. the 6x4.5 numbers are usualy on the other edge of the film
FallisPhoto
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Only way you're going to get faint images of the red window through the backing paper is if (1) you leave the camera sitting around in strong light for a day or two, face down, between shots, which you shouldn't do, or (2) your red window isn't red anymore, but has faded to orange. The cure for this one is obvious: replace the window; a dark red Lee filter is good for this. Don't use Cokin -- they scratch way too easily.
chippy
foo was here
well i guess thats why i have never had a problem with light coming through the paper 
I dont leave em out..hmm except for the time i forgot and left my top of the range (at that time) canon outside on a table on a sunny day. I went out for a drive and a freak rain storm came along and stuffed up the electronics...costly to fix
I dont leave em out
..hmm except for the time i forgot and left my top of the range (at that time) canon outside on a table on a sunny day. I went out for a drive and a freak rain storm came along and stuffed up the electronics...costly to fix
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literiter
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I've had this problem, quite badly actually. The cure was likely a combination of:
-Using the camera case to cover the red windows as much as possible.
-Opening the sliding covers only as necessary in subdued light.
-I installed black flocking on strategic areas in the camera back.
-Black Velcro (fuzzy side of course) with the sticky backing cut to size and placed around the red widow openings.
-The paper backing on XP-2 seems to be quite opaque and seems to work for me OK.
-Goes without saying, but, load film in subdued light.
-Using the camera case to cover the red windows as much as possible.
-Opening the sliding covers only as necessary in subdued light.
-I installed black flocking on strategic areas in the camera back.
-Black Velcro (fuzzy side of course) with the sticky backing cut to size and placed around the red widow openings.
-The paper backing on XP-2 seems to be quite opaque and seems to work for me OK.
-Goes without saying, but, load film in subdued light.
ZeissFan
Veteran
I've not yet had a problem with my cameras that don't have a sliding door. I suppose it depends on the camera.
By the way, this means that you have an early version of the Super Ikonta A.
By the way, this means that you have an early version of the Super Ikonta A.
FallisPhoto
Veteran
What kind of camera was that? Do you have photos of the inside of the back of the camera?
literiter
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This was my Super Ikonta C, with Opton lens. I think I did post something. I'll look around.
literiter
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Nothing posted anywhere I guess. I'll take pics of what I've done if anyone wants. let me know.
FallisPhoto
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Yes, I'd like to see that. I'm betting that your red window has faded a good bit and that it's a strong contributing factor.