Ororaro
Well-known
rxmd said:You know, Ned, I realize that you're emotionally invested in this lens, and to an extent you have some justification for that because you produce some good images using it. But if someone makes any kind of remark about the Noctilux in any thread, you can be relied on 100% to jump into the fray defending it as if it were your lifeblood. Now here you're starting to argue lexical definitions of the word "fast". So what, if you mean the relation between entrance pupil and focal length, and Roland means depth of field for the same scene, which will obviously be from a different distance given the different focal lengths? An argument which is entirely based on having different definitions of the problem is rarely a productive endeavour. If you spent your time just enjoying that according to your definition, your Noctilux is faster than a mere 35 Nokton, and then using your time to take pictures instead of defending its honour writing text on the Internet, it would sem a lot more productive to me. Last time you told me to "stop spreading bullshіt" about the Noctilux in a thread where I hadn't said anything about it at all. Is it really necessary to be so generally argumentative about it?
Philipp
Philipp,
I'm sorry, I haven't read your long post. But I know one thing: You seem to be anal about me and the noctilux lens.
Before I go back to reading your long post involving Me and the Noctilux, I will add that the Noctilux is the best thing since sliced bread and if you have a problem with that or with my work involving the noctilux, please call my agent.
And there is always the Noctilux thread I started for you to visit and see how it performs in a wide variety of situations, from total darkness to the brightest sunny days.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
Hah
I laughed
I laughed
Ororaro
Well-known
Okay Philipp,
I read your long post and honestly, all you're saying is total Bull. If I understand your logic correctly, if the 35 1.2 is faster then the Noctilux in relation to the entrance pupil and depth of field, the 15mm f4.5 is faster then the Noctilux, too.
Then you mentioned something about "different definitions of the problem". I don'T know what you are talking about. I know I was saying a f1.0 lens is faster then a f1.2 lens and there are not many ways to look at this. But you seem to imply there is. Good for you but I'm not going there. Until you prove me that a f1.2 lens is faster then a f1.0 lens, I won't stop thinking you don't know what you are talking about.
And then you mentioned I was better off shooting then talking. I don't know where you been lately but some of my work would probably make you fall off your chair. I'm not the type to brag about it but man, since I haven't seen anything coming out of your camera, I'm not sure you have the qualification to ask anything from me.
I read your long post and honestly, all you're saying is total Bull. If I understand your logic correctly, if the 35 1.2 is faster then the Noctilux in relation to the entrance pupil and depth of field, the 15mm f4.5 is faster then the Noctilux, too.
Then you mentioned something about "different definitions of the problem". I don'T know what you are talking about. I know I was saying a f1.0 lens is faster then a f1.2 lens and there are not many ways to look at this. But you seem to imply there is. Good for you but I'm not going there. Until you prove me that a f1.2 lens is faster then a f1.0 lens, I won't stop thinking you don't know what you are talking about.
And then you mentioned I was better off shooting then talking. I don't know where you been lately but some of my work would probably make you fall off your chair. I'm not the type to brag about it but man, since I haven't seen anything coming out of your camera, I'm not sure you have the qualification to ask anything from me.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
I laughed some more...
Chuckles.
*Gets another beer*
Chuckles.
*Gets another beer*
Ororaro
Well-known
cmogi10 said:I laughed some more...
Chuckles.
*Gets another beer*
I have to admit I laughed too :angel:
jamiewakeham
Long time lurker
Just to close this thread... I just ordered a 35mm f/1.2 from Robert White. My Rigid 'cron will be going up for sale sometime soon in order to pay for it and maintain my significant other's one-in-one-out rule.
Thanks for all the advice, guys.
J
Thanks for all the advice, guys.
J
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