The Canon "mirrorless"

I don't mind the looks. The lack of controls is ok as long as the touch screen is implemented well. Same with the lack of an EVF. The larger sensor (vs Nikon 1) is good. I won't miss the flash if the high ISO is good. I probably will buy something like this until a 50mm X100 type camera comes out (that's not the Dp2m).... Price must be < $700
 
Yeah I really don't mind the look of it either. I just got a Canon XA10 (for work) and there's a big touch-screen integration in that machine. It takes a little getting use to but I like using the camera more for video than I ever did with a DSLR.

Reasons this appeals to me: My Canon s90 is on its last legs, I loved that camera and the photos I took with it. Small and mighty, but also kind of slow and has a tiny sensor. I'm finding room for film in my life is getting to be difficult, and I'd like the ease of a compact digital kit. The 35mm equivalent lens appeals to me since I love the the Stylus Epic 35mm lens compact (hopefully it'll be as nice of a lens on the Canon but that also remains to be seen).
 
i think it's design compares favorably to other camera in its class: olympus e-pm1/pl3, panasonic gf5, sony nex-f3, nikon j1, and samsung nx1000.

it's a good example of the trend to add sharper, geometric lines and forms to the usual plastic blob.
 
i don't think it's bad looking at all. the proprietary strap lugs, though: why make it difficult to use one's own favorite strap? so the owner has to use one with canon printed on it, i suppose.

You can always paint the C over with a black magic marker to make it anonymous. :p

Your 5 year old niece has a cell phone? :eek: I'm getting old...

In Finland 5 year old with a cellphone is not that uncommon, but I quess most kids get their own cellphones when they go to school (when they are about 7 years old). The world is changing.

I wonder when people start to understand that using a real viewfinder improves stability and makes framing easier on bright daylight... Or maybe the stabilizers and screens will just improve so much that it doesn't really matter.
 
I don't see any difference between this and the Olympus OM-D that everyone seems to get wet dreams over. Both are ugly. So what??

"Ugly" of course is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to like the OM-D's looks just fine. Still, compared to the OM-D, the new Canon offers the following "features":

  • NO built-in EVF (nor, it appears, any way to attach an external EVF).
  • Limited lens selection, thanks to Yet Another All-New Lens Mount.

In short, it gives me precisely no regrets at having just shelled out for an OM-D outfit.

That said, the only thing curious about the announcement that Canon was getting into the MILC (not EVIL, this camera has no EV) market was that it took so long, particularly given how Canon has typically been one of the more technologically-inclined camera manufacturers.
 
I would humbly suggest you try a Nikon 1 series out for a while. I am using the V1 and consider it an extremely capable camera.

actually, right after i posted that i saw your thread about your experiences with the Nikon 1 and i must say that i was intrigued. you're right, i've never tried one and i should try one before knocking it. i guess i was just hoping for a different kind of camera both from Nikon and Canon. :eek:

Boring specs, boring implementation (no innovation whatsoever), and even worse looks.

what specs? i have yet to see anything but photos.
 
*bump*

Canon EOS M Specifications
18mp APS-C
DIGIC V
ISO 100-12800 (25,600 Expansion)
3″ Touchscreen 1.04million pixels
Phase & Contrast AF
Video Servo AF
1920×1080 Video 30p/25p/24p
1280×720 Video 60p/50p
MPEG-4, AVC/H.264
SD Card
Adaptor at launch for EF lenses

Additional specs
Hand-held Twilight mode, to help with long exposures in low light.
Multi-shot noise reduction function that helps reduce the noise by combining four images.
The usual creative filters
HDR mode to synthesize three different exposures
Camera size: 66.5mm (width) 108.6mm (height) x 32.3mm (depth)
The weight (body only) 262g, (including battery and memory card) 298g

hands-on video:
http://youtu.be/Sa_9kNAMcIw

lots more info:
http://www.canonrumors.com
 
Not for me, I like the G12/G1X aesthetic, this is a bit too rounded and civilised for me. No EVF or even an option for an EVF rules it out. The Nikon V1 of course has a smaller sensor, but I think I'd opt for it just for the EVF.
 
well, at least now, a full frame mirrorless is really possible.

"The EF-M mount is 58mm in diameter, with a flange distance of 18mm from the bayonet to the sensor. As the image above clearly shows it's matched specifically to the APS-C sensor size. So don't expect a future full frame EF-M mount camera - it's not going to happen." From DPR
 
(Wanders off to check out the new Panasonic LX7, put some more pennies into my Nex 5N or 7 account and shoot some film.)
 
"The EF-M mount is 58mm in diameter, with a flange distance of 18mm from the bayonet to the sensor. As the image above clearly shows it's matched specifically to the APS-C sensor size. So don't expect a future full frame EF-M mount camera - it's not going to happen." From DPR

I meant an EF mount since they gave in to the mirrorless trend and have the full frame lenses... something which has been stopping the other mirrorless players.
 
I meant an EF mount since they gave in to the mirrorless trend and have the full frame lenses... something which has been stopping the other mirrorless players.

Sure, but if they go EF mount the camera's not going to be thin due to the large flange-to-sensor distance in the EF standard. So they'll end up with something that might as well have had a mirror box like the Pentax KO-1.

What Canon is saying here by introducing a 1.6 crop mirrorless is unambiguous: Panasonic and Olympus [2.0], Fuji and Samsung [1.5] all have found the optimal balance between sensor, lens, and camera size, and image quality. And for most people, that balance does not favor FF.
 
Sure, but if they go EF mount the camera's not going to be thin due to the large flange-to-sensor distance in the EF standard. So they'll end up with something that might as well have had a mirror box like the Pentax KO-1.

What Canon is saying here by introducing a 1.6 crop mirrorless is unambiguous: Panasonic and Olympus [2.0], Fuji and Samsung [1.5] all have found the optimal balance between sensor, lens, and camera size, and image quality. And for most people, that balance does not favor FF.

I wonder why Sony, which is the most successful APS-C mirrorless producer to date. Was not mentioned alongside the other four manufacturers you named above.
 
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