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The D800 has Landed!
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nighstar
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Youtube finds:
eye candy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rEIam8uQ50
eye candy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rEIam8uQ50
sanmich
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Somebody can please explain what is the "E" about?
no filter/higher res/need for a UV IR filter on lens, is that it??
no filter/higher res/need for a UV IR filter on lens, is that it??
thirtyfivefifty
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I was hoping 16-22MP in one of the D800 models, but still, after that very weak Canon lens announcement (24-70 II, 24/2.8 IS, 28/2.8 IS), I'm recommending everyone who asks for a DSLR recommendation to head over to Nikon instead (EVEN THOUGH IM A CANON USER). There's nothing good in the Canon camp unless you're shooting full-frame and L glass. Nikon has way more depth and compelling products in both the full-frame and APS-C range.
gavinlg
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Haha what? :bang:
Like the af-d lenses that won't AF on the base model bodies?
jarski
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nice! D700 successor has been rumored every now and then least past 2 years, good that is finally "has landed" 🙂
pixelatedscraps
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Impressive specs...I wonder how it performs in low light against the D700 it's meant to replace.
Reviews, please!
Reviews, please!
Matus
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The D800E model has no AA filter. Should make for a great landscape camera. Let's see how many lenses will be able to deliver the resolution necessary to take advantage of that (up to the corners). One hits the diffraction limit at around f/11.
Spicy
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You're welcome everyone.
(Just picked up a D700 4 days ago... Shall I go get a D4 so they'll announce the D5?)
(Just picked up a D700 4 days ago... Shall I go get a D4 so they'll announce the D5?)
punkromance
Poor art student
Well, we're getting completely shafted in the UK. £2400 and £2700 respectively for the D800/E.
As an ex-D700 owner who wanted FF video but can't afford a D4, this release was such a disappointment. Not to mention the absurd focus on MP rather than ISO. I imagine there are more hobbyists shooting in the dark than there are ones needing to blow their photos of cats up to billboard size.
I guess the D700 ate into their D3 sales too much, stopping them from making the D800 a mini D4.
As an ex-D700 owner who wanted FF video but can't afford a D4, this release was such a disappointment. Not to mention the absurd focus on MP rather than ISO. I imagine there are more hobbyists shooting in the dark than there are ones needing to blow their photos of cats up to billboard size.
I guess the D700 ate into their D3 sales too much, stopping them from making the D800 a mini D4.
This is a professional camera. There are plenty of other options for low light work.
punkromance
Poor art student
With a prosumer price tag, aimed at the prosumer market.
Full frame? Really? The cheapest on the market that goes over 25,600 is the D3s which will set you back a modest £3,900. Have fun with your 720p jello though. Want decent video? That leaves you with two options, at a £4,500 minimum. Unless you want to settle for APS-H and get Canon's £3,600 1D Mk IV.
Who benefits from clean images at high ISOs? Every single photographer that shoots outside a studio. Who benefits from an absurd amount of pixels? A few high end studio photographers who need to print on billboards. I know plenty of working studio photographers paying their bills with a measly 12MP D700 and getting on absolutely fine. And as someone who regularly blows up my own photos bigger than 16x24", 16MP is enough.
$3300 USD prosumer? Are you serious?
D700, 5D MK2, D3, 1DX, D3s, D3x
A now they can have it without having to pay 20,000K+
You don't need high resolution to print for billboards because the viewing distance is very far. For fashion and advertising, it is very useful.
Phantomas
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While people here form firm oppinions based on specs only, without seeing a single review about sensor's capability, nor seeing any sample images, I'll be rocking this "E" version, trying to reproduce the moire (tough task so far).
jsrockit
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You guys are already set against the sensor in this camera without seeing results? why?
Indeed. However, it would be pretty unlikely that it would produce worse looking images at this stage of the game. 😀
punkromance
Poor art student
*$3000.
Yes. It's half the price of the D4. And it'll most likely drop another couple of hundred more shortly after it's released.
$3k is a lot of money to spend on a camera, but it's not too much for a young person, which is why you see tons of kids in their late teens/early twenties on flickr with D700/5DIIs. $6k on the other hand is a lot of money.
My original point was just that Nikon have done this so it doesn't eat into the pro line, and that still stands.
They haven't implemented any of their latest generation high ISO tech in cheaper models, forcing people who need it to cough up for the more expensive ones.
D700/5D/D3/D3X/D3S are all three/four years old. Good in low light yes, but not a patch on the current gen and none of them shoot video worth talking about.
While people here form firm oppinions based on specs only, without seeing a single review about sensor's capability, nor seeing any sample images, I'll be rocking this "E" version, trying to reproduce the moire (tough task so far).
There's plenty of photos for you to pixel peep here: http://www.nikon-image.com/products/camera/slr/digital/d800/sample.htm
With a video here: http://vimeo.com/36305675
And personally, I like to run all my photos through Hipstamatic. It just makes them so much more relevant.
Personally, there's a few reasons. The first being 76MB for one raw photo. Hope you have plenty of external harddrives/a decent computer to run that through. Secondly, increased pixel pitch sacrifices not only noise performance, but video performance too due to forced line skipping. Enjoy your moiré. Thirdly, there are plently of samples already online, including a shot at 640 ISO that looks like 2500 from my D700.
phew.
Phantomas
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I don't need to pixel peep, I can look at my own eresults. As for Hipstamatic, did I offend you? Awwww. Don't be so agro dude. Take a chill pill and settle for the camera that rocks your boat, whether it's D800, M9 or Hipstamatic 😉
jsrockit
Moderator
If you are using a camera of this caliber, wouldn't you have storage and a decent computer already? Storage is dirt cheap.
Nikon must be dumb to have used such a sensor? Do you really think Nikon would sabotage themselves with poor high ISO? I have a feeling it'll be fine.
Can I see it? Is it only one photo? I don't care either way, but I think it's too early to dismiss this camera. I hate DSLRs so I won't be buying one.
What would be the point? The D800 is a high resolution camera, you can't also have good high iso. Like I said there are other options for hi-iso needs and yes they are at more Pro prices.
I don't understand how it would even be technically possible to make cheaper models as good as the top end models for less money. 😕
Are you sure about that? They could just as likely be using pixel binning like the GH2.
Awesome! I can figure out the lighting used from looking into the pupils of the models eyes. Good enough for me.
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