EmilGil
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Is that 3 minutes after income taxes are paid? If so, how do I get a job like that!?Silva Lining said:
Silva Lining
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EmilGil said:Is that 3 minutes after income taxes are paid? If so, how do I get a job like that!?
Heh, I wish - its before tax and NI.
(Plus I think ISO might have worked the math differently)
ISO
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Silva Lining said:
3 x 20 minutes = 1 hour
1 working day = 8 hours
£1.89 x 20 x 8 = £ 302.40
that is my math. But it is not that important anyway. Just dreamed about what I could get for that money (every day) ...
160 rolls of Pan F. For example...
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Socke
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skibeerr said:
Depends, I've got a fixed income and flexible hours, flexible meaning overtime is not payed
Roughly 20 minutes with 5.49 per 36exp roll.
A typical hairdresser in eastern germany would have to work 1.5 hours without tips, a waiter in western germany 40 minutes, again without tips.
skibeerr
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Socke said:Depends, I've got a fixed income and flexible hours, flexible meaning overtime is not payed
Roughly 20 minutes with 5.49 per 36exp roll.
A typical hairdresser in eastern germany would have to work 1.5 hours without tips, a waiter in western germany 40 minutes, again without tips.
!Socke you are in my league. Lets unite!
FREE LEICA'S FOR THE WORKERS.Jamie123
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skibeerr said:
Me in Switzerland at my current job something between 15 and 20 minutes. I'm a student though, so this is not my *real* job.
Olsen
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Thardy said:
Wouldn't you agree that what you actually are observing is that the dollar is 'very' weak compared to the Pound. Haven't been so week in 26 years, actually. Further: Typical for expensive cities (Stockholm, Tokio, London, Oslo, Paris etc.) are 'high salaries'. That is what drives prices - 'the supply side of the market'. You should be familiar with this in the US.
What is typical for these cities is not neccessary the price of the cheesburger, but of real estate. When buying an exclusive apartment in West London (or Paris) you could be competing with members of the Saudi Royal family. Or with some of the best payed stock brokers in the world.
ISO
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Olsen said:
...well, a NON exclusive apartment in West London starts at around 3.000 used Leica M6.
BTW, the Dollar is weak, the Yen is even weaker, especially when you are in Europe.
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mfogiel
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All things are relative - the pound is expensive relative to the euro, the euro is expensive relative to the dollar, the dollar is expensive relative to yuan, the yuan is expensive relative to some other currency... what normally does not surprise me, is overvalued currencies in old democracies. In this respect the pound is perfectly ok - what is out of place really is the dollar. The nice thing is,everybody says the dollar has to fall because: (fill this space with your own argument...) . The democracy and rule of law is something that adds a lot of value to a currency, especially these days, because the biggest portfolio flows that drive up the currencies come from (commodity producing) countries where the rich either do not have the confidence in the rule of law and order at home ( often rightly so), or they have too much money to consider the domestic options, or both... so the flow ends abroad. This is why the Russians and Arabs, etc, pay the top dollar for London mansions and drive world stock prices higher. Maybe a less geopolitically aggressive US administration would do more favours to dollar's strength - we will see after the next election...
Xmas
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Basically the US is fighting two wars on credit and the UK is using stealth taxes.
The two large UK political parties are heading towards the cliff lemming style, but you can never tell with politics.
I have to buy cheap bulk film.
Noel
The two large UK political parties are heading towards the cliff lemming style, but you can never tell with politics.
I have to buy cheap bulk film.
Noel
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Socke
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Thardy said:
I spent a night in the Meridien for 650 quid, that was back in 1990!
alan davus
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Yes I remember when the Aussie dollar was worth 50 cents U.S. a few years ago and a pound sterling bought over A$3. Tourists flocked here in their droves and our exporters loved it. But of course it meant Aussies heading overseas had to take wheelbarrow loads of money with them to pay for their holiday and imported goods cost a mint. But with our dollar at its highest level against the TWI (trade weighted indicator) for nearly 20 years, thats why I bought a new M6ttl and a new Hex 35UC LTM lens this year. If the US$ is falling it is just the international markets passing judgement on the American economy and factoring the cost to the US of the Iraqi war. If I was an American heading overseas on holidays, I'd just skip going to Europe. Lets face it, the place has been done to death tourist wise. Head Downunder, you'll be more than welcome here, bring your cameras and your devalued dollar will still buy a great holiday.
colinh
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Silva Lining said:
Hmm, that would be about 2.85 EUR. So why the hell does it cost over 5 EUR here in Germany?
Anyway, you should have used your net salary, as you can't spend your taxes, can you?
colin
mw_uio
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Whatever arm pit of the world one may be in, a Ben Franklin, or a Grant, or a Jackson, will help you out, when in trouble. US Dollars are the most recognized currency in the in third world.
Cheers
MArk
Quito, EC
[Ecuador's currency was changed to US Dollars in 2000, we do not have anything else, thus our inflation is 2.8%]
Cheers
MArk
Quito, EC
[Ecuador's currency was changed to US Dollars in 2000, we do not have anything else, thus our inflation is 2.8%]
colinh
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What might also be interesting is how much Japanese opto/electronic goods cost in various countries. It used to be the case that Europeans (especially Brits) got screwed wrt. Americans. Exchange rates be damned.
Zeiss ZM 25
Germany (Shphoto)..EUR 900 ................. == EUR 756 (without sales tax)
USA (popflash).........USD 777 ................. == EUR 567
UK (Robert White)....GBP 540 == EUR 810 == EUR 690 (without sales tax)
Japan ?
Ah no. I was wrong. It's European continentals are getting screwed.
Must be because the US market is larger. Although the EU has a population of 493M.
I guess the message is, "forget economics, pay what you have to, take pictures and enjoy life as best you can."
colin
Zeiss ZM 25
Germany (Shphoto)..EUR 900 ................. == EUR 756 (without sales tax)
USA (popflash).........USD 777 ................. == EUR 567
UK (Robert White)....GBP 540 == EUR 810 == EUR 690 (without sales tax)
Japan ?
Ah no. I was wrong. It's European continentals are getting screwed.
Must be because the US market is larger. Although the EU has a population of 493M.
I guess the message is, "forget economics, pay what you have to, take pictures and enjoy life as best you can."
colin
visiondr
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colinh,
Note that PopFlash prices are Grey Market. I don't believe Tony Rose is an official USA distributor of Zeiss products, hence the lower prices than the others (presumably Zeiss official resellers).
Note that PopFlash prices are Grey Market. I don't believe Tony Rose is an official USA distributor of Zeiss products, hence the lower prices than the others (presumably Zeiss official resellers).
colinh said:
I recently got a new black ZM 25 in Tokyo for a friend in the US. It cost 84,800 yen!
JPY 84,800 = USD 687.56 = EUR 504.66
Photog gear is cheap, but overseas travel is now very expensive :bang:
colinh
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jonmanjiro said:
So, ZM 25/2.8 = 500 EUR in Japan
and Elmarit-M 24/2.8 = 2600 EUR in Germany.
Good thing we Germans earn over 5 times as much as the Japanese
colin
retow
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colinh said:So, ZM 25/2.8 = 500 EUR in Japan
and Elmarit-M 24/2.8 = 2600 EUR in Germany.
Good thing we Germans earn over 5 times as much as the Japanese
colin
Or the 24 Elmarit is 5x as good as the ZM25 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
colinh said:Good thing we Germans earn over 5 times as much as the Japanese
Over 5 times more than the Vietnamese ..... sure!
Over 5 times more than the Chinese .... most likely, but some Chinese do earn VERY good salaries.
Over 5 times more than the South Koreans .... unlikely.
Over 5 times more than the Japanese .... not a chance