chuckroast
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All tongue-in-cheek, in good fun.I think it's a tough argument to state than the M5 doesn't have superior ergo, but certainly the people have spoken for 5 decades. Even today a perfect M5 is $1000-$1500 less than a perfect M6.
Which is weird to me, since I think the M5 is better in pretty much every way than the M6. But ... if someone were to give me an M6, I'd keep it around to make fun of it ...
hap
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well....it sort of works
hap
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the person I bought about that time range....yes. Howver, the person called himself Asiafish , I saw his name not too long ago on a forum. He did not answer.I’ve added 2 on top of that one ✌🏻
BTW I couldn't get any response from Sherry. Years ago she said "just put in a alkaline battery and forget about it" that doesn't work either.
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That's funny CR. I agree with you, even though I don't care for the M5....the engineering & build is superlative. But strangely enough i had a few M6 (including a titanium), used them hard and never had one fail. It was only after 10 yrs of LF & MF with no 35mm, when i picked one up again, that their idiosyncrasies started to bother me. Any M6, MP, or M5 that came my way would quickly get flipped. (For the price of an new M6 I could have a new steel-rim Summilux 35 and an M2 or M4. Believe it or not the M6 is capable of taking a good photo (50mm Summicron).Which is weird to me, since I think the M5 is better in pretty much every way than the M6. But ... if someone were to give me an M6, I'd keep it around to make fun of it ...

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It helps to clean air.That's funny CR. I agree with you, even though I don't care for the M5....the engineering & build is superlative. But strangely enough i had a few M6 (including a titanium), used them hard and never had one fail. It was only after 10 yrs of LF & MF with no 35mm, that their idiosyncrasies started to bother me. Any M6, MP, or M5 that came my way would quickly get flipped. (For the price of an new M6 I could have a new steel-rim Summilux 35 and an M2 or M4. Believe it or not the M6 is capable of taking a good photo.
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hap
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so...after a lot of filing the M5 gives aperture and speed metering is about 1 stop compared to my new sekonic twinmate. I suppose I could try different adapters. Or just give up set the asa as a stop faster.
hap
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Actually, the M5 meter as it is now powered (somehow) is pretty unreliable. The twinmate is very close to my F6.
Richard G
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Brutalist lines revealed in chrome. Some say ugly. I say beautiful.

M5 ZM 21 4.5 by Richard, on Flickr

M5 ZM 21 4.5 by Richard, on Flickr
Ororaro
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Brutalist lines revealed in chrome. Some say ugly. I say beautiful.
The silver M5 is really a classy badass.
So is the black! 😊
chuckroast
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Yeah, equipment bigotry is an entertaining pastime, but all that matters is the image. Also, The only reason I don't like the M6 is because I can't afford oneThat's funny CR. I agree with you, even though I don't care for the M5....the engineering & build is superlative. But strangely enough i had a few M6 (including a titanium), used them hard and never had one fail. It was only after 10 yrs of LF & MF with no 35mm, when i picked one up again, that their idiosyncrasies started to bother me. Any M6, MP, or M5 that came my way would quickly get flipped. (For the price of an new M6 I could have a new steel-rim Summilux 35 and an M2 or M4. Believe it or not the M6 is capable of taking a good photo (50mm Summicron).
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Great pic, BTW ... but it would have been better with a Hasselblad....bwhahaha
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Maybe,Yeah, equipment bigotry is an entertaining pastime, but all that matters is the image. Also, The only reason I don't like the M6 is because I can't afford one
Great pic, BTW ... but it would have been better with a Hasselblad....bwhahaha
agentlossing
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I'm ashamed to say I've never handled an M5 (yet), but it earns my appreciation for the sideways strap lugs alone. I've always thought a camera looks extra rugged and utilitarian when hanging sideways.
Shab
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I simply love using my M5 too.
I used to use it with two lenses: VM21mm 1.8 (now it is dead, after it was to the ground from 3m...) and VM35mm 1.7 Ultron. I'm thinking on buying another 21mm... but surely it will be the VM 21mm color-skopar 3.5 (I have read good things about it)... but I haven't decided still...
But one thing is clear for me: M5. Absolut pleasure.
I used to use it with two lenses: VM21mm 1.8 (now it is dead, after it was to the ground from 3m...) and VM35mm 1.7 Ultron. I'm thinking on buying another 21mm... but surely it will be the VM 21mm color-skopar 3.5 (I have read good things about it)... but I haven't decided still...
But one thing is clear for me: M5. Absolut pleasure.
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Well they do look cool, but IMO not entirely practical. In later production M5 models Leica added a 3rd lug for horizontal carry. I've owned and used 6 cameras with side lugs: M5, CL, Pentax LX, Pentax 6x7, Fuji GW680lll, Fuji GW690lll. Lifting them up to your eye is very smooth if the camera is on your left shoulder. If you try that off your right shoulder, the strap is in the way. Carried around your neck you have to turn the camera every time you pick it up. Carried cross-body on a longer strap is also awkward because the lugs on one side close together (and the longer body) allow the camera to swing somewhat while you're walking.... that's my experience anyways.I'm ashamed to say I've never handled an M5 (yet), but it earns my appreciation for the sideways strap lugs alone. I've always thought a camera looks extra rugged and utilitarian when hanging sideways.
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Retro-Grouch
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Agreed. I appreciated the three-lug M5 I had. A camera over the shoulder might seem more ergonomic and faster handling, but there is a simple equation I've learned, the hard way: shoulder carry + metal doorframe = disaster.Well they do look cool, but IMO it's not entirely practical. In later production M5 models Leica added a 3rd lug for horizontal carry. I've owned and used 4 cameras with side lugs: M5, CL, Fuji GW680lll, Fuji GW690lll. Lifting them up to your eye is very smooth if it's on your left shoulder. If you try that off your right shoulder, the strap is in the way. Carried around your neck you have to turn the camera every time you pick it up. Carried cross-body on a longer strap is also awkward because the lugs on one side close together allow the camera to swing somewhat while you're walking.... that's my experience anyways.
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I had to edit my post.... i had forgotten I owned both a Pentax LX and 67.....but never carried them vertically.Agreed. I appreciated the three-lug M5 I had. A camera over the shoulder might seem more ergonomic and faster handling, but there is a simple equation I've learned, the hard way: shoulder carry + metal doorframe = disaster.
chuckroast
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I'm ashamed to say I've never handled an M5 (yet), but it earns my appreciation for the sideways strap lugs alone. I've always thought a camera looks extra rugged and utilitarian when hanging sideways.
M5s are really wonderful AND really different than the usual M camera ethos. If you do look for one, be sure to get a later serial number to be assured you don't run into the dreaded roller problems that affected earlier production runs. Wikipedia has the serial numbers to look for.
chuckroast
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Well they do look cool, but IMO not entirely practical. In later production M5 models Leica added a 3rd lug for horizontal carry. I've owned and used 6 cameras with side lugs: M5, CL, Pentax LX, Pentax 6x7, Fuji GW680lll, Fuji GW690lll. Lifting them up to your eye is very smooth if the camera is on your left shoulder. If you try that off your right shoulder, the strap is in the way. Carried around your neck you have to turn the camera every time you pick it up. Carried cross-body on a longer strap is also awkward because the lugs on one side close together (and the longer body) allow the camera to swing somewhat while you're walking.... that's my experience anyways.
I carry mine (and my GW690II)
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I carry mine (and my GW690II) on my left shoulder. When in shooting position, this ensures the strap doesn't get in the way of the film advance. The perfect camera would have two strap lugs on both sides so both right- and left-handed carry would be accommodated.
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