mark-b
Well-known
Everyone's got their opinion of which lens is bokeh king of the 35mm focal length realm. Now I'd like to know what you consider is king of bokeh for the 50mm
focal length.
focal length.
ferider
Veteran
There really is no question in my mind: DR Summicron. And I've tried a lot and love classic Sonnars.
The only other lens that comes close is the ZM C-Sonnar. But, compared to the DR, it has some strong disadvantages in usability.
Roland.
The only other lens that comes close is the ZM C-Sonnar. But, compared to the DR, it has some strong disadvantages in usability.
Roland.
My thoughts are similar, Rigid Summicron (same glass as the DR) and Nikkor 50/2 (Sonnar) come to my mind immediately.
This is of course, a very personal thing. Bokeh "likes and dislikes" cannot be described using scene metrics. Although, I could try to dig out some old FORTRAN code that performed such tasks in the early 80s.
1956 KMZ Jupiter-3, wide-open at F1.5.
Modified for close-focus to 0.8m.
1956 KMZ Jupiter-3, wide-open at F1.5.
Modified for close-focus to 0.8m.
The Type 1 Rigid Summicron and DR Summicron have the same Optics Module.
This is with the Type 1 Rigid Summicron, wide-open at F2.
The DR Summicron cannot be mounted on an M8 or M9. But if you get a "junker" Type 1 Focus Mount, you can transplant the optics into it.
This is with the Type 1 Rigid Summicron, wide-open at F2.
The DR Summicron cannot be mounted on an M8 or M9. But if you get a "junker" Type 1 Focus Mount, you can transplant the optics into it.
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Collapsible Summicron, wide-open at F2:
Uncoated 5cm, F1.5 Sonnar, modified to LTM, wide-open on the M8.
ferider
Veteran
My wife wax-painting Easter eggs, taken with the DR:

Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
+1 for the DR Summicron. After that, it comes down to the effect that I'm wanting. I love my Canon 50mm f/1.4 for its rendering wide-open, but at the same time, I really like the Jupiter 8 as well. Right tool for the job.
If it came down to me owning only one though, it would be the DR Summicron.
If it came down to me owning only one though, it would be the DR Summicron.
jmkelly
rangefinder user
There are a lot of variables here. Depending on the OOF content and the lighting, one of several different lenses will give better or worse effects, according to my personal esthetic. I agree with Roland about the DR Summicron - this lens gives me the largest percentage of "pleasing" shots. I also love my very early Summilux, but percentage-wise it doesn't match the DR. I really love my Sonnars and have close to every flavor - and I've noticed that even duplicates of the same lens have slightly different rendering. The comparative OOF of the Sonnars can be a bit jangly with certain kinds of bright background highlights relative to the DR.
AhShun
Member
My thoughts are similar, Rigid Summicron (same glass as the DR) and Nikkor 50/2 (Sonnar) come to my mind immediately.
Owned both Rigid and Nikkor.
Now, Rigid in hand but the Nikkor sold, that's my choice^^
K14
Well-known
I'd say there are many. My old coated Summar:


'37 Sonnar, wide-open
Type 1 Rigid, wide-open
5cm f2 Sonnar "T" in LTM, wide-open.
Just had to be different. But kept the test target constant.
Type 1 Rigid, wide-open
5cm f2 Sonnar "T" in LTM, wide-open.
Just had to be different. But kept the test target constant.
ferider
Veteran
How about just picking a single personal favorite, Brian ?
Easy if someone had asked which is the lens with the worst Bokeh.
"Astignar" 50mm/f2, wide-open, in LTM. The Jester of Bokeh.
For personal favorite- the uncoated Sonnar 5cm F1.5.

"Astignar" 50mm/f2, wide-open, in LTM. The Jester of Bokeh.
For personal favorite- the uncoated Sonnar 5cm F1.5.
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tightsqueez
Well-known
Hey now! I happen to love the look of the "Beast" aka "Astignar".
I'm glad it found a good home. Proves Bokeh is Subjective.
The ultimate Franken-Lens. Half Sonnar-Half Xenon, set in an I26 Mount and RF coupled...
Wait until the next one creeps out of the optics lab...
Actually- one of my hybrid J-3's has the smoothest Bokeh that I've seen...Made from a couple of lenses, swapping elements around...
The ultimate Franken-Lens. Half Sonnar-Half Xenon, set in an I26 Mount and RF coupled...
Wait until the next one creeps out of the optics lab...
Actually- one of my hybrid J-3's has the smoothest Bokeh that I've seen...Made from a couple of lenses, swapping elements around...
kzphoto
Well-known
People swear by that DR summicron. I've yet to use one, but I love the rendition on my 50mm pre-ASPH lux.
biakalt
Long Tran
I love my Summarit bokeh


mark-b
Well-known
Easy if someone had asked which is the lens with the worst Bokeh.
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"Astignar" 50mm/f2, wide-open, in LTM. The Jester of Bokeh.
For personal favorite- the uncoated Sonnar 5cm F1.5.
That's certainly different, and I like it. Edgy and dynamic. No creaminess, but then the subject matter won't showcase any of it if it's there.
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