zuiko85
Veteran
I find that for any particular focal length lens I desire my bank balance quickly cures any "metaphysical doubts" I have.
the metaphysical doubt, applied to 28mm
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Gary Sandhu
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I like the 28 cron shot at f2. I'm sure I'd like the ultron, too. The aperture might be the biggest differentiator. For portability I like the G-Rokkor 28/3.5 and like its focusing tab better than the 28/3.5 Voigtlander.
surfer dude
Well-known
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shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I have seen two gem 28mm lenses.
One is stuck inside my Olympus XA4.
The other inside my Ricoh GR1s.
Other than that, I'd rather use 24mm.
One is stuck inside my Olympus XA4.
The other inside my Ricoh GR1s.
Other than that, I'd rather use 24mm.
apodeictic
Established
I second the Ricoh GR1's 28mm lens. There's something about that whole camera- the way it fits in the hand, snap mode, the beautiful moody contrast of the lens. It just hits all the right notes for me- and I thought I would never say that about a point and shoot!
ottluuk
the indecisive eternity
The good news is that it also exists in LTM. The bad news - it's rare and pretty expensive. This is one lens I would like to get sometime.
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
update: this is what i found out so far.
since i was unclear about which 28mm lens would match my experience with the 50mm summilux v.2, i looked at hundreds of pictures on flickr, taken with the different 28 lenses.
i found most pics not to be tagged precisely, so checking flickr was less informative than i had hoped. still i was able to draw some conclusions. i try to describe my very personal impression - this highly subjective and only depending on my "taste of the day".
some care needs to be taken when looking at pictures in flickr. first, it's obvious that the image quality suffers from small format and compression artifacts. then, pictures uploaded to flickr usually are selected and postprocessed by the respective owner - what you see is not the "raw" product of the camera/lens, but an edited and refined "essence".
all conclusions drawn must be seen with these considerations in mind.
it was fairly easy to make out differences between several groups of lenses. this does not mean, that each and every picture clearly showed the signature of the respective lens. honestly, for most of the pictures i saw, i would be unable to identify the lens used to take it. but still, there was a general trend regarding the look that i am after.
rating:
-- not my thing at all
- i don't like it
+ i like it
++ bingo, that's it
the "state-of-the-art" group:
- summicron: while capable of stunning results, for each picture i liked, there were at least two pics i disliked strongly, generally far too 'clean'. (phew, me and my bank account are happy to find that i do not like this lens!)
-- elmarit asph: no surprise, like the summicron, only more so. extreme dislike.
- ultron f/1.9: less apparent than with summicron, but still not to my taste
the "modern" group:
- konica hexanon: similar to elmarit v4, too 'clean'
- elmarit v4: mostly unremarkable, high contrast.
+ zm biogon: while modern in looks, still more appealing than the others.
- cv 3.5: inhomogenous. B&W acceptable, colour somehow not.
the "classical look" group:
+ ultron f/2: a bit "rough", but lively and appealing
++ elmarit v3: the nicest of the whole bunch
of the lenses of the final group ("antiques"), there were too few samples to come to a final verdict:
canon ltm: a bit soft
minolta: left no special impression
summaron: very pleasant drawing!
the surprizes:
the summicron. i had expected a more pleasant rendering
the summaron. simply wow.
the f/1.9 ultron. in my memory, it was nicer than it appeared to me now
the result - i'll need to find a v3 elmarit and try it out. usually i don't like tabbed focusing...
since i was unclear about which 28mm lens would match my experience with the 50mm summilux v.2, i looked at hundreds of pictures on flickr, taken with the different 28 lenses.
i found most pics not to be tagged precisely, so checking flickr was less informative than i had hoped. still i was able to draw some conclusions. i try to describe my very personal impression - this highly subjective and only depending on my "taste of the day".
some care needs to be taken when looking at pictures in flickr. first, it's obvious that the image quality suffers from small format and compression artifacts. then, pictures uploaded to flickr usually are selected and postprocessed by the respective owner - what you see is not the "raw" product of the camera/lens, but an edited and refined "essence".
all conclusions drawn must be seen with these considerations in mind.
it was fairly easy to make out differences between several groups of lenses. this does not mean, that each and every picture clearly showed the signature of the respective lens. honestly, for most of the pictures i saw, i would be unable to identify the lens used to take it. but still, there was a general trend regarding the look that i am after.
rating:
-- not my thing at all
- i don't like it
+ i like it
++ bingo, that's it
the "state-of-the-art" group:
- summicron: while capable of stunning results, for each picture i liked, there were at least two pics i disliked strongly, generally far too 'clean'. (phew, me and my bank account are happy to find that i do not like this lens!)
-- elmarit asph: no surprise, like the summicron, only more so. extreme dislike.
- ultron f/1.9: less apparent than with summicron, but still not to my taste
the "modern" group:
- konica hexanon: similar to elmarit v4, too 'clean'
- elmarit v4: mostly unremarkable, high contrast.
+ zm biogon: while modern in looks, still more appealing than the others.
- cv 3.5: inhomogenous. B&W acceptable, colour somehow not.
the "classical look" group:
+ ultron f/2: a bit "rough", but lively and appealing
++ elmarit v3: the nicest of the whole bunch
of the lenses of the final group ("antiques"), there were too few samples to come to a final verdict:
canon ltm: a bit soft
minolta: left no special impression
summaron: very pleasant drawing!
the surprizes:
the summicron. i had expected a more pleasant rendering
the summaron. simply wow.
the f/1.9 ultron. in my memory, it was nicer than it appeared to me now
the result - i'll need to find a v3 elmarit and try it out. usually i don't like tabbed focusing...
kanzlr
Hexaneur
+1 on the Konica.
or the ZM. The ZM is amazing in its contrast, clarity, pop, but the Konica draws wonderfully, too. I love it especially as a 40ish lens on crop, but on film it is amazing, too.
or the ZM. The ZM is amazing in its contrast, clarity, pop, but the Konica draws wonderfully, too. I love it especially as a 40ish lens on crop, but on film it is amazing, too.
