the new R3A

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I recently received an R3A from a major online dealer. I removed it from its box, attached the lens, and looked through the rangefinder. . . .it was shifted vertically. This has happened to many. Note to new owners - return it immediately if this happens to you and you still have warranty. I tried to adjust it, because I needed the camera immediately. Well, the adjustment did not work as it should have, and instead totally ruined the viewfinder. So, owners of R3As, the online description of the screws under the hotshoe are not related to the R3A, they are R2 (I think), and the directions will guide you astray. I did not find any instructions for R3As.

The dealer I bought the camera from has truly amazing customer service, and accepted it back for an exchange. I should be getting the new one in the next two weeks or so. SO yeah, the following will explain why I sold my D70, and my Pentax 645NII to begin building a 35mm rangefinder system.

The camera felt awesome in the hands, the viewfinder was truly gorgeous, and the shutter was relatively quiet. I did play with an old M3 though, and that was . . . .silent by comparison. The R3A has a nice sturdy build, very well laid out. A decent heavines that some relate to quality. I simply like the weight because I like to feel the camera in my hands. All the controls feel tight and solid. The back closes without the click that some like to feel for assurance of a seal, but it IS a solid close. The whole camera feels like it will last a while. The little strap rings attached to the outside of the camera take away some of its stealth, but oh well. The shutter, though not silent, is NEARLY without vibration though the M3 was truly without any vibration. I can fit this camera, with the Nokton 40, in my coat pocket. This is the perfect street photography camera. Easily. And if it gets stolen or thrown down the stairs, I am not out 5 grand.

I got the Nokton 40 with it, and of course did not take any pics with it, but I have to say that I do not like the focusing ring on that lens. It has that little fingering thing that requires you hold the camera in a way that allows you to reach it to focus. See pictures of it on Cameraquest. Very annoying not to be able to focus from anywhere on the ring. I suppose one could focus without using it, but it's not easy. I like the traditional focusing ring. The Aperture ring was loose too.

Before buying this camera, I spent a great deal of time fondling the Leicas and Hexars, and I even considered the new Zeiss Ikon. The Leica is nice because it will live longer than its owner and for fondling enjoyment but I think I would probably fall asleep with it one night, and get skin or hair or both in the works. The Hexar did not feel as solid as the R3A, and the Ikon is too young (it is truly a first generation regardless of its previous incarnations). I might put one on lay-away at my local store, Glazers Camera. But I will be buying some Leica glass first. Or maybe one of those new Zeiss lenses. To me, it makes more sense to buy the R3A and a Summilux or a Biogon and some other goodies than the m7 and no lens. The glass makes the pictures anyway, not the body. And I could buy several R3A bodies for the price of the M7.

If I had endless money, I would, of course, buy the Leica. But I don't.
 
too bad about the rf being out of alignment. did you also send back the nokton? in any case, they're pretty sweet when they work. if you don't warm up to focusing tabs, you can rest your thumb on it and focus normally with your index finger opposite.
 
Thanks for the write-up. I've got an R3A on its way from CQ. I can't wait to get it in my hands. I'll keep fingers crossed for an in-alignment rangefinder.
 
I too have the R3A and am enjoying it immensely -- it's my first RF camera. Like you, the vertical alignment was out. [in another thread] Instead of exchanging the camera I had, I went ahead and had it re-aligned. Since I've never had experience sending photo equipment for repair, I took the philisophical approach to get to know more about the offerings in my area and get to know the folks at the repair shop I chose. The cost of re-alignment wasn't all too bad -- actually, I opted to have the rangefinder re-calibrated because I had noticed that focusing to infinity wasn't entirely true when looking at the lens distance, so the rangefinder was off horizontally in addition to vertically.

In the end, everything is in tip-top shape and am extremely happy with the purchase and the capabilities of the camera. The rangefinder is aligned vertically and focus to infinity appears to be true.
 
I was able to follow the R2 instructions here to successfully adjust the vertical on my R3a. The screw you want is on the bottom right, under the shoe and is covered somewhat by the top plate. You have to get at it at an angle.

Ben
 
The Bessa out of vertical alignment problems are far to frequent. In my opinion it is a serious Quality Control problem . The camera should be able to withstand the normal handling experienced when being shipped. I am not buying into the theory that all of the problems are caused by shipping, but even if the camera is so delicate that it can't withstand the normal shipping shock, its still a quality control problem that needs to be corrected at zero expense to the consumer. There is absolutely no acceptable excuse for a new camera that requires repair upon receipt by the customer.
 
I sent my first R3A back for the same reason. The second one had the same problem, so I fixed it myself after figuring out which screw did what (I also got 2 different instructions, but looking at the real thing it's pretty obvious to see). Took about 5 minutes and now everything works perfect.

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Anyone interested in this question of misalignment might want to look at the current thread on the R3A over at photo.net. Rich Pinto of Photo Village has posted that the distributors have received instructions from Cosina for fixing the problem, so this can now be done by them with quick turn around. Rich states a frequency rate of less than 3%.

Huck
 
I completely agree with Andrew and others, that this is inacceptable. Even if it's not a Leica, it's still not a cheap camera, and settings should not just 'drift around' even if the shipping is rough. I mean, if you buy a clock, you expect it to work accurately, right? If you buy a DVD player, you don't start to look for the screw to re-align the readhead, do you?
I don't know about that 3% but i hear it here far too often that it's out of alignment.
 
3% seems low given that I haven't seen too many posts saying that R3A (and R2A) cameras arrived perfectly - particularly there may be a number people like myself and the do-it-yourselvers, who may not have reported the defect at all. Of course, it's all at the whim of the poster. Agreed. Something should work when fresh out of the box.

The probably would probably be lessened if Cosina had a better distribution network. In speaking to a number of people, Voigtlanders are fairly rare -- primarily since most people want an auto-everything camera.
 
I don't know if this fits in here or should I make a new topic?

Since I'm fairly new in the 'rangefinderworld' how do I see whether my rangefinder is aligned properly or not? ( I have a Bessa R3a aswell..)
 
Well, here's one happy camper. Had my R3A a couple of years now. Rangefinder 100% on receipt and no problems since with use and handling. Using Nokton 40, and CV 21, 15 and 75. All great.
Still love to play with my Leica IIIf's so usually have either colour or a different speed B&W in one of them as a second camera. But the viewfinder isn't as clear, film loading isn't as simple, (although it's not as difficult as some people like to make out) they don't have a meter, so the R3A is quicker and easier to use.
 
Hi Ewoud,
Vertical alignment - if you look through the viewfinder and try to focus on a TV aerial, the two images should overlap each other without any shift in the Y-axis.

If the images are not coincident, one is higher/lower than the other - your rangefinder may be out of vertical alignment. Moving your eye around the viewfinder helps a little. My RF645 has been a little off vertically since I bought it. I'm hoping it might drift back one day. Doesn't really affect focusing, for me.

Horizontal alignment - Focus on the moon or some faraway object, then compare with the markings on the lens. Alternatively take a series of test shots of a ruler at an angle. Lastly, you could use some ground glass at the film plane, and a loupe. Focus on something a known distance away, then look at the groundglass. I've never used this method.

My RF645 focuses past infinity and it's vertically mis-aligned and I use Astia that's few years out of date - still produces wonderfully good images. Any poor photos are always my fault.
 
Hmmm - maybe

Hmmm - maybe

The shutter, though not silent, is NEARLY without vibration though the M3 was truly without any vibration. I can fit this camera, with the Nokton 40, in my coat pocket. This is the perfect street photography camera. Easily. And if it gets stolen or thrown down the stairs, I am not out 5 grand.



Well, while it can be true, it depends....on what lens you have attached to it. If Noctolux - there is your 5K. And if you would have M3 with Nokton, it wouldn't be 5K either.
Bessas are not that cheap anymore, compared to the first ones - R, R2. I think it's as good or better value to get a good used Leica.
I agree with your thoughts on Zeiss, being too new to see if it'll last a long time.
I like Bessas, but I prefer Leicas. Actually, I prefer Hexar RF even more for most applications. I think every camera is a compromize to some degree. So, as long as you like it and it works for you - it's GREAT!!!!!
Just don't forget to share some photos.
 
The problem has been solved according to our local distributor of Voigtlander here in Austraila. All the current stock has been arriving in perfect alignment. It was a quality control problem in the factory which has now been plugged. Interesting to note that they actually here had their tech check every camera before shipping to check the rangefinders.
 
Chavo, good to hear your importer is on the ball!

I had an odd experience with the vertical alignment in a Hexar RF shipped to me in Washington State from England. It was surely ok when shipped, but arrived severely out of alignment. While I worried who to send it to for service, I loaded a roll of film and went out shooting to see what else might be wrong. The next day I checked the RF alignment visually, and it was perfect. What a relief.

I think this might be an instance where the stresses of overseas shipment put it out temporarily, and a bit of normal use put it right back in again.

PS: One of my two Bronica RF645 viewfinders is out just a little bit vertically, but not enough to be bothersome. Came that way new.
 
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