the next big thing in street photography?

I might sell the G1/20mm but I might keep it around for longer manual focus lenses. Or just use my wife's Nikon dslr when I need it.

I like the G1 a lot but the Fuji promises several stops of high ISO goodness and most likely better dynamic range... If Pany had introduced a nice, fast AF portrait lens I'd be locked in and might even upgrade to the GH2 or next G3, but otherwise the X100 makes the (nice) G1/20mm package redundant and a lot easier to rationalize unloading.

$400 for a G1/20mm in March I fear.... peanuts for what it can do too, so maybe keep it for backup for a while longer?
 
The camera seems great for street. If its AF works well and it's easy to be sure about the focused point, it can be one of the best tools for color right now. I'd get one because my only other digital camera is a lot bigger.

Cheers,

Juan
 
I might sell the G1/20mm but I might keep it around for longer manual focus lenses. Or just use my wife's Nikon dslr when I need it.

I like the G1 a lot but the Fuji promises several stops of high ISO goodness and most likely better dynamic range... If Pany had introduced a nice, fast AF portrait lens I'd be locked in and might even upgrade to the GH2 or next G3, but otherwise the X100 makes the (nice) G1/20mm package redundant and a lot easier to rationalize unloading.

$400 for a G1/20mm in March I fear.... peanuts for what it can do too, so maybe keep it for backup for a while longer?

i use the same kit mostly for lazy shooting and taking shots of the rd1. i don't really need it and having the x100 would make it a bit redundent. i think the g1 is a great kit but i could live without it.
 
They say in the brochure that if in OVF mode, shutter lag is .1 seconds. I doubt very seriously that if in MF mode the lens will need to move, why would it?

This is also my worry (probably unsubstantiated, but I've been burned before with the Nikon 35ti and a Contax G). Trying to work out what the lens does in this video, it seems that it goes back and forth for no reason. It does it very quickly but still, why cant it go straight to the focus distance and stay there, like a Hexar AF would do for example? I hope this doesnt indicate that it will need to do the same even when manually prefocused. Probably not, we'll find out when we get in our hands. I've preordered 🙂
 
This is also my worry (probably unsubstantiated, but I've been burned before with the Nikon 35ti and a Contax G). Trying to work out what the lens does in this video, it seems that it goes back and forth for no reason. It does it very quickly but still, why cant it go straight to the focus distance and stay there, like a Hexar AF would do for example? I hope this doesnt indicate that it will need to do the same even when manually prefocused. Probably not, we'll find out when we get in our hands. I've preordered 🙂

To me, that looks like it's autofocusing (sounds like there is a beep after it's done moving, AF confirm). Which is what makes me so excited, because that's nice and fast for contrast based AF. There is a video by the fujiguys as well, that shows no lens movement, just aperture engagement then shutter.
 
Yes, back when I was researching cameras that might have inspired the X100, but I went and watched a youtube of it again to refresh my memory. I'm assuming it doesn't do that lens movement when AF is turned off? (can it be turned off?)

That said, never in person, why do you ask?
 
just wanted to make sure you know what I'm benchmarking against 🙂
I think we have different priorities, for you AF speed is important which is fine. For me not so, for me it is way more important for the AF not to hunt under any circumstances (ie low light), because slow AF is predictable and therefore I can anticipate it and provide adequate time for it to focus, whereas hunting is undpredictable and therefore it costs me photos. It is also extremely important for AF not to stand in the way of MF, ie when I focus or prefocus and I press the shutter the lens must not move at all under any circumstances (I'm quite confident the x100 lens will not, just not 100% sure yet)
 
just wanted to make sure you know what I'm benchmarking against 🙂
I think we have different priorities, for you AF speed is important which is fine. For me not so, for me it is way more important for the AF not to hunt under any circumstances (ie low light), because slow AF is predictable and therefore I can anticipate it and provide adequate time for it to focus, whereas hunting is undpredictable and therefore it costs me photos. It is also extremely important for AF not to stand in the way of MF, ie when I focus or prefocus and I press the shutter the lens must not move at all under any circumstances (I'm quite confident the x100 lens will not, just not 100% sure yet)

I think we're on the same page. I want to be able to manually focus when appropriate and not have the lens hunt, I was just saying that is what I think the lens movement in that video represents, AF hunting, and that were it in MF mode, you wouldn't have to wait at all for that.

(but I do want fast AF also) 😛
 
It appears that "the next big thing in street photography" is not about street photography at all. It is about cameras to be used for street photography.

Does anyone else find there is a difference in "photography" and "cameras"? Or, am I just in the wrong place?
 
Joe: you could spend the US 1200 for a week somewhere nice and do "street" with your RD1 ... just saying. :angel:
 
It appears that "the next big thing in street photography" is not about street photography at all. It is about cameras to be used for street photography.

Does anyone else find there is a difference in "photography" and "cameras"? Or, am I just in the wrong place?


I think Bob makes a valid point here ... the emphasis on street photography surrounding this camera is a little disturbing at times.

It's a digital camera with a 35mm field of view, auto focus and pleasing styling before it's anything else.
 
It appears that "the next big thing in street photography" is not about street photography at all. It is about cameras to be used for street photography.

Does anyone else find there is a difference in "photography" and "cameras"? Or, am I just in the wrong place?

sadly, you probably in the wrong place if you're more interested in photography than cameras

it's amazing how so many RFF'ers are devoting to this one camera (despite a similar array of RFF'ers lamenting the Fuji's overwhelming marketing approach for this camera)... if nothing else - Fuji has succeeded in *****s in drawing attention to the X100

Given the price point, I suspect half the early adopters will love the camera and the other half will be disappointed when they realize this 'jesus camera' isn't going to help them make better images.
 
I think Bob makes a valid point here ... the emphasis on street photography surrounding this camera is a little disturbing at times.

It's a digital camera with a 35mm field of view, auto focus and pleasing styling before it's anything else.

my main area of interest when it comes to photography is 'street shooting'...whatever that is...so naturally for me, any camera i use will be viewed from that specific viewpoint.
 
There's some misunderstanding. 😉 :

The thread title should read 'The next big thing for street photography' instead of 'The next big thing in street photography'.

We're clearly not talking about trends in street photography, just about tools for street photography.

Actually, I don't expect to shoot better pictures using this camera. Rather, I expect to find a faster route to image files (dig. camera instead of shooting film, spending half a night processing and then spending half an evening scanning).

I am intrigued about this camera, as it promises the usability and user interface of an analog camera, while delivering digital image files. For someone who uses a hybrid/digital workflow for his postprocessing, this isn't trivial at all. I enjoy shooting a lot more than standing in my bathroom, shaking tanks to the rhythm of a timer clock and stuffing film strips into a slow scanner that makes odd noises and seems to take forever....
 
I think its AF will define the camera's future... For manual focus it's way below RD1 and Ms, but for AF, if it informs and gives security to the shooter, it could be great for low light color and for family/fun snaps. With a common AF, it would be just a common digicamera.

Cheers,

Juan
 
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