The unofficial statement from Leica on M8

Jeeze .. and this is only the discussion in respons to the unofficial anouncement. Can't waite for monday when the official 25 pages come out and we can do this all over again .........🙄
 
J. Borger said:
Jeeze .. and this is only the discussion in respons to the unofficial anouncement. Can't waite for monday when the official 25 pages come out and we can do this all over again .........🙄

Didn't I see your name in that thread I pointed out, Han? 😉 Guilty of the same crime you accuse us of!😛 😛
 
jaapv said:
Didn't I see your name in that thread I pointed out, Han? 😉 Guilty of the same crime you accuse us of!😛 😛
Unfortunaltely ..... positive and balanced threads like the one you linked to related to the M8 get very low attention in comparison to the ... well you know😉
Do not you get tired of preaching in the wrong church .....:angel:
I think i will stay out for a while and start shooting the beast ... in the meantime prepare myself for a short personal trip to Solms to get the streaking fixed 🙂
 
I don't think anything is "free" in this world. If you included an IR filter with every lens, the people whose interest was monochrome could rightfully claim that they were being subjected to an unneeded expense.

Kim

c.poulton said:
One easy fix for Leica would be to ship a free IR filter with every new lens bought - a minor cost compared with the overall cost of a new lens, then any new lens would be fully 'Leica M8 colour ready' - if you shoot B+W, fine, don't use the filter. Just my opinion.......
 
J. Borger said:
Unfortunaltely ..... positive and balanced threads like the one you linked to related to the M8 get very low attention in comparison to the ... well you know😉
Do not you get tired of preaching in the wrong church .....:angel:
I think i will stay out for a while and start shooting the beast ... in the meantime prepare myself for a short personal trip to Solms to get the streaking fixed 🙂

I'm waiting a bit. Mine has a very rare and exotic sensor flare problem which manifests itself every 200 shots or so - I'll get both fixed at the same time when I can miss the camera. Sometime in March I think.
 
jaapv said:
There is a very interesting thread on the Leica Camera Users Forum (registration required) that compares the various problems and artifacts produced by the sensors of the Canon 1DsII and RD1, amongst others.
Thank you for that link. It's certainly very informative and a must read, especially for those who state their intent to get an R-D1 instead.

As far as the whole discussion is concerned: I used to think that Leica has a touchy userbase that tends to complain a lot. This whole episode shows that it's not so much the actual userbase. It's really the image in the head of the crowd that counts, not so much the actual product.

You can apply this to the M5 as well; it was probably not so much the actual users (of which there never were many) that killed it but tech journalists and people in photography clubs. Most of them probably never had an M5 in their hands for more than five minutes, yet people were very vocal about how the device was completely unusable for them.

What's sad is how we lose people like Sean in the process.

Philipp
 
jaapv said:
I'm waiting a bit. Mine has a very rare and exotic sensor flare problem which manifests itself every 200 shots or so - I'll get both fixed at the same time when I can miss the camera. Sometime in March I think.


That's the sensor flare that all the collector's are raving about - I'd vacuum seal that camera right now!
 
Too late for that - The camera has been taken out of the box and horror of horrors actually used. 😱

Kim

Toby said:
That's the sensor flare that all the collector's are raving about - I'd vacuum seal that camera right now!
 
Leica seems to be be very concerned about it's customers and their reaction is like it could have been expected from them. Has Nikon or Canon ever offered discounts on lenses after they sold partially unfunctional cameras? Never. Many Nikon D200 users for instance had to wait months to get the banding problem resolved - without any official communication from the manufacturer.

The M8 is not in my financial reach yet, and I would anyway have waited until the (predictable) children's diseases are cured, before I would buy it. But their reaction to the here well discussed M8-issues let me feel shure that they really try everything to offer a digital rangefinder which is worth it's red dot.

Didier
 
Toby said:
That's the sensor flare that all the collector's are raving about - I'd vacuum seal that camera right now!

I was photographing a rainbow and got far more than I bargained for...(photo not profiled btw) I would love to hear a technical explanation. I am very happy that there is no sign of the camera making a habit of it 🙂:angel:

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Spaceship is about to land in your park jaapv! its good to see people shooting on the weekend in the park with $8000 outfit 😀 😀 😀
 
Yeah, we need some positive vibe lately, even though M8 is rubish (kidding) I am happy whenever I think that camera has nothing to do with photography and I get really happy that even if I buy all the best cameras and lenses I still have to learn and discover more and more! so that keeps me with hope to live and discover! regardles any lens or body 🙂 so I love photography!!! god I want to shooot!!! 🙂
 
Kim Coxon said:
I don't think anything is "free" in this world. If you included an IR filter with every lens, the people whose interest was monochrome could rightfully claim that they were being subjected to an unneeded expense.
Maybe they could make it a free option. If you don't need it, you don't have to take it 😀 😀

Philipp
 
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