There I Was, Photographing an Abandoned Car in Whitehall...

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I'm just back from a UK visit, and thought I'd relay an experience that bears on discussions we've had here about the attitudes of UK police and security officials to photographers.

My London hotel was just off the Thames, about a 15-minute walk south of Parliament. Since the hotel wanted 14 quid for a coffee-and-danish breakfast (buffet-style, at that) most mornings I'd walk a bit north of the parliament buildings and have a breakfast at a cafe along Whitehall.

One morning, I'm sitting outside at the cafe, enjoying my coffee, when I notice an empty car parked in the middle of the street rather close to the Centopath. In fact, about as close as you can get to the Centopath.

(OK: Whitehall is the stretch of London street that is the core of the UK government. The Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defense, among other agencies, are located there, as is the prime minister's residence, 10 Downing Street. The Centopath, located very close to Downing Street, is a memorial to the UK lives lost in World War One. The queen lays a wreath there each Armistice Day.)

Anyway... I didn't think much about the car, thinking some poor fool had been late for a meeting and done something really stupid.

So I finished my coffee, ambled across the street, took out my camera, and started taking pictures of the car, the Centopath, etc., etc.,

In my left ear, though, I hear someone shouting, "Oy! Oy! Oy!". I look around and see someone in the distance standing in the street waving his arms. Figuring it was just some random urban nutjob, I happily returned to taking pictures.

But, the Oy, Oy, Oying went on. And got closer. I looked and noticed that the man wore some kind of uniform and seemed to be waving his arms at me. I waved my arms in a manner intended to ask, "Are you talking to me?"

The answer was yes.

So I walked up to the man in uniform, who asked me if I was English. I said no. He pointed to the abandoned car and said "we" are treating the car as a potential security threat. "Please walk to the yellow ribbon over there and an officer will allow you to cross through."

That's what I did, and then kept on walking.

Apparently, while I was at that cafe, security people closed off the street both south and north of me. Then, in my touristy stupor, I started photographing the very thing that they, understandably, saw as a potential threat.

The security officers (they were not ordinary cops) who dealt with me were professional, polite and serious. No paranoia about cameras. I am curious what their behavior might have been, though, if, in response to the officer's question, I had said I was English. Why was that significant? Did he think a Brit would not have initially ignored his Oy, oy, oying? Or, would I have been in trouble for photographing a car tagged as a potential security threat?

That night, I checked the news and fund that the car was, in fact, driven by some hapless bureaucrat who had been runnning late.
 
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The security officers (they were not ordinary cops) who dealt with me were professional, polite and serious. No paranoia about cameras. I am curious what their behavior might have been, though, if, in response to the officer's question, I had said I was English. Why was that significant? Did he think a Brit would not have initially ignored his Oy, oy, oying? Or, would I have been in trouble for photographing a car tagged a a potential security threat?

That night, I checked the news and fund that the car was, in fact, driven by some hapless bureaucrat who had been runnning late.

I assume he was checking if you spoke english or if you were possibily part of the diplomatic corps as the diplomatic cars have special numberplates.
 
perhaps if you had been English they would have found comfortable accommodation for you in the Tower of London? 🙂
 
... if you were possibily part of the diplomatic corps as the diplomatic cars have special numberplates.

Folks on the diplomatic list do not leave their cars sitting empty in the middle of Whitehall anymore than they abandon their cars on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House. Trust me on that.
 
You should have said you are the official police photographer 😀. And imported at that (since he would have caught your accent).

P.S: can we see photos of that car now? or that too is a security threat? 😉
 
Folks on the diplomatic list do not leave their cars sitting empty in the middle of Whitehall anymore than they abandon their cars on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House. Trust me on that.


Yes probably true, however we must get a lower grade here as they often leave their laptops on parkbenches, trains etc.
There is a Mr Bean script in this story 😀
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CW
 
Sounds like business as usual on whitehall.
I used to commute daily down Whitehall by bicycle. Something would always be going on there. Usually they were pulling over cars and searching the boot.
In the 80's the IRA parked a van across from Downing Street and from there fired an RPG towards #10. Since then they have the gates, closing it to traffic. Supposedly they once found a bicycle chained to a fence that had it's tubes packed with explosives, so now there is no where to park a bike around there.
I remember a number of occasions in the 90's when I left my college to find the street deserted and realized that I was on the wrong side of the yellow tape.
UK security people thankfully but often also annoyingly don't joke around.
 
At least tell us the car model, its color and how it fit in a composition or something that made it worthwhile. And how many shots you took? After all going paparazzi on some ordinary car that was parked casually (it was not abandoned) is bond to attract attention.
 
well I guess he put two and two together.
Firstly an englishman in London wouldn't have done what you did.
Secondly a terrorist isn't likely to walk up and photograph the bomb he's just planted after the road has been closed off and the place is crawling with security.
And thirdly anyone pronouncing or spelling cenotaph, Centopath is very probably harmless.
 
In the 80's the IRA parked a van across from Downing Street and from there fired an RPG towards #10.

I was living in London in the early '90's when the IRA, or a splinter group, fired homebrew mortars into Number 10. Is that the incident you're remembering?
 
Folks on the diplomatic list do not leave their cars sitting empty in the middle of Whitehall anymore than they abandon their cars on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House. Trust me on that.

I can assure you they do, ambassadors included. I worked the press line at number 10 for over a year and saw it happen in the area multiple times, right from attaches to ambassadors.
 
During the Gulf War (the first one), the IRA parked a van in Whitehall that popped three or four mortar rounds at No. 10 during a Cabinet meeting. If not for a sloppy parking job, one of them probably would have dropped into the Cabinet Room and broken up the meeting. So they're a bit on the hair trigger when someone abandons a car on that street. They weren't worried about you taking pictures, they just didn't want to sweep up your naughty bits if it had been a bomb.
 
At least tell us the car model, its color and how it fit in a composition or something that made it worthwhile. And how many shots you took? After all going paparazzi on some ordinary car that was parked casually (it was not abandoned) is bond to attract attention.

The car was a silver sedan.

The car was not "parked casually". It appeared to be abandoned in the middle of the road.

The immediate area is one of the most heavily touristed spots in the world. Thousands of people pass through it daily, photographing everything in sight, including, to use the correct spelling now that I have been snarkily corrected, the Cenopath.
 
Lets just say it was no big deal.

I don't mind the police, in fact when police is around i photograph with complete peace of mind... its the muggers that should be of most concern to a street photographer.
 
I can assure you they do, ambassadors included. I worked the press line at number 10 for over a year and saw it happen in the area multiple times, right from attaches to ambassadors.

Isn't it pretty hard to see out to the street from Number 10?

And, of course, you cannot turn off Whitehall onto Downing Street unless the the guys in uniform open the gate.
 
They weren't worried about you taking pictures, they just didn't want to sweep up your naughty bits if it had been a bomb.

In '93 when the IRA bombed the City of London, I believe the only casualty was a News of the World photographer who had ignored warnings to leave the area, and was struck by falling glass.
 
Isn't it pretty hard to see out to the street from Number 10?

And, of course, you cannot turn off Whitehall onto Downing Street unless the the guys in uniform open the gate.

The press line is actually in front of number 10 and the gates are opened if you have accreditation, not sure how its relevant I was just saying that I;ve spent a lot of time around diplomats in London and they do stupid things on a very regular basis.
 
In '93 when the IRA bombed the City of London, I believe the only casualty was a News of the World photographer who had ignored warnings to leave the area, and was struck by falling glass.

I must confess I carried a diplomatic passport when I was assigned to London in the '90's (wasn't on the diplomatic list; that's a different thing). I was going home on the Tube that night. An interesting evening. I have all respect for UK security folks, and an awareness of what keeps them up nights. I was struck by the professional approach of that officer versus what we are told are the histrionic reactions of some ordinary cops to photographers.

Jay: Didn't mean to challenge you. I've seen a lot of silly diplomatic behavior, and from a closer vantage point than the press line. 😉
 
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