There ought to be a Leica M10 Law that Says..

[kshapero]

A friend now shooting a major story in M.E. and I have often discussed a "digital: Leica.
The final judgement is a NO!
Too soon obsolete, lack of reasonable service and adjustments in timely manner.
We both love our film Leica, which is a money maker in his case.
I am retired so no needless expenses and all too soon obsolete.

Whats M.E.?

 

[Axel]

A friend now shooting a major story in M.E. and I have often discussed a "digital: Leica.
The final judgement is a NO!
Too soon obsolete, lack of reasonable service and adjustments in timely manner...

Although I really doesn´t care about what others mean I would bet there is a huge number of photographers and other people
who would swear any film camera is much more obsolete than any digital cam.

But all other subjective decisions are highly respected regardless of this.

...We both love our film Leica, which is a money maker in his case.
I am retired so no needless expenses and all too soon obsolete.

And I mean it is fair to say there are a lot (more?) photographers out there who view their cams, film or digital,
even so exactly as "money makers".

So all that has no direct connection to the questions of the threadopener 😉

Just my 5ct.

But - what is M.E.?

 

[Rob-F]

Whats M.E.?

Modern England?

Manchester England?

 

[splitimageview]

The Leica Law that seriously needs to exist, is that all Leica products, being up-market/high-end/premium, must come with equivalent premium service and support. The current support is woefully inadequate for even the lowest end of the market.

 

[brennanphotoguy]

The M10 is so good. I love film but sometimes I need to have digital and that camera makes it slightly more enjoyable to use digital. The M10 checks off all the boxes more or less.

 

[brennanphotoguy]

The Leica Law that seriously needs to exist, is that all Leica products, being up-market/high-end/premium, must come with equivalent premium service and support. The current support is woefully inadequate for even the lowest end of the market.

This. 100%.

 

[css9450]

Modern England?

Manchester England?

I interpreted it to be the Middle East. Iraq, Syria, etc.

 

[Phil_F_NM]

Manchester England?

That camera would have to be all red. 😉
Which begs the question, why haven't we seen boutique Leicas painted up in the colors and crests of peoples' favorite football or rugby teams? I'd like a New Zealand All Blacks edition MP or MA with the feather. If we have to put a corporate sponsor, I want the old Steinlager logo, not the new Adidas one.
Liverpool FC would have a matching bag and every time you pull the camera out, Gerry and the Pacemakers start singing.

Phil Forrest

 

[mpaniagua]

So... it's the Leica M10 Commandments, engraved on brass tablets? :angel:

It depends, it was engraved on Zinc for 1984-2003 🙂

Marcelo

 

[Huss]

The Leica Law that seriously needs to exist, is that all Leica products, being up-market/high-end/premium, must come with equivalent premium service and support. The current support is woefully inadequate for even the lowest end of the market.

Bahhhh!!

We need to make shiny buildings, not spend money on customer service.
Our core customers use their cameras as necklaces, so they never need service.

https://us.leica-camera.com/World-o...ld-of-Leica-at-the-Leitz-Park/Leitz-Park-2018

 

[Huss]

Modern England?

Manchester England?

Middle Earth. He is photographing the secret lives of Hobbits.

 

[LCSmith]

No M10 can NOT be sold without the visoflex ... the options the visoflex adds are HUGE.

The visoflex on a rangefinder is the equivalent of bumper-bowling and training wheels.

 

[Canyongazer]

Whaa?

Whaa?

Was this supposed to be funny?

So you sign up on RFF years ago to get tech help for your Zorki.
You get it.
No further inspiration to post until five years later you make a silly disparaging remark to the Head Bartender?

If that's all ya' got, go away.
Again.

 

[Larry H-L]

Leica law #1: All Leica products that leave the factory floor must be priced at or above $ two arms and one leg.

 

[aizan]

1) nobody is allowed to buy a leica m unless they're actually taking advantage of its reverse galilean viewfinder and tabbed manual focus lenses (to scale focus by feel). otherwise you might as well be using a camera with a ttl viewfinder of some sort and lenses with autofocus or manual ones with no focusing tabs.

2) you must attend some classes or buy a book on how to post-process your photos so that they don't look like digital p&s dreck.

3) ditto for subject matter, composition, and editing.

4) ditto for history and criticism.

 

[Huss]

The visoflex on a rangefinder is the equivalent of bumper-bowling and training wheels.

It's a very cool way to adapt SLR lenses.
I've particularly enjoyed using my Minolta 58 1.2 on my M. And my Petzval 58 1.9.
But for regular RF lenses, the RF is more 'natural', easier and quicker.

 

[Huss]

1) nobody is allowed to buy a leica m unless they're actually taking advantage of its reverse galilean viewfinder and tabbed manual focus lenses (to scale focus by feel). otherwise you might as well be using a camera with a ttl viewfinder of some sort and lenses with autofocus or manual ones with no focusing tabs.

2) you must attend some classes or buy a book on how to post-process your photos so that they don't look like digital p&s dreck.

3) ditto for subject matter, composition, and editing.

4) ditto for history and criticism.

5) you must understand the difference between real patina, and fake patina. Unless it's the Lenny Kravitz reporter special, then it's cool.

 

[css9450]

1) nobody is allowed to buy a leica m unless they're actually taking advantage of its reverse galilean viewfinder and tabbed manual focus lenses (to scale focus by feel). otherwise you might as well be using a camera with a ttl viewfinder of some sort and lenses with autofocus or manual ones with no focusing tabs.

Yes, scale focus by feel only. No looking! And it must be done well in advance of taking any photos.

No lightmeters! Exposure must be set by seat-of-the-pants experience, or, as per instructions printed inside the box of film. If shooting digital, carry with you an old film box if you haven't already memorized the recommended settings.

All film must be bulk-loaded (or re-loaded) into reusable Leica cassettes.

 

[Livesteamer]

I'm a retired machinist employed part time by the Wake Forest University Physics department to do small machining jobs. Last week I branched out and did a job for Biology and saw they had a Leica microscope. As I understand it the microscopes are a different company than the cameras but I had to ask. "How do you like your Leica microscope?" Answer. "Great microscope, horrible service." So it's not just the cameras. I'll keep my film Leica's. Digital Leica? Not for me. Joe

 

[NeonKnight]

Leica reviewers who are bad photographers MUST be totally ignored regardless of their technical excellence.
If all their smarts did not help their photography, what good are they?

Ignore them if you want but I do think they are still providing a valuable service. A lot of Leica users could not do any better. We are all at differnet skill levels but hopefully we are having fun and growing in our hobby/trade.