bushwick1234
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Us=We The People.
They are coming after us
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Ko.Fe.
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You getting it wrong. If I call it will be about "Girl Making a Dog Dance on Her Bed". But don't get me wrong, not this one, but what one.
https://enfilade18thc.com/2015/06/03/the-art-bulletin-june-2015/
Ko.Fe.
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Do you really think I give a crap who is who in NYC papers?
It is like me demanding from Americans to know the difference between Toronto Star and Toronto Sun.
Highway 61
Revisited
Just dress up a list, and write to the museums. "We The People" thinking of children the right way have been waiting for too long before someone took their responsabilities and ask for all those dangerous artworks to be hidden (permanently destroyed would for sure be better).
This is the Internet and there have been lots of stupid threads on this forum as on any forum (yet, at the end of the day, maybe a bit less here than elsewhere), but this one for sure gets the golden awards, all categories.
To end up here : I live way farer from NYC than you (on other side of the ocean actually) but most people I know around are aware of the differences between the NY Times and the NY Post, as well as the differences between the Washington Post and the Washington Times.
This is the Internet and there have been lots of stupid threads on this forum as on any forum (yet, at the end of the day, maybe a bit less here than elsewhere), but this one for sure gets the golden awards, all categories.
To end up here : I live way farer from NYC than you (on other side of the ocean actually) but most people I know around are aware of the differences between the NY Times and the NY Post, as well as the differences between the Washington Post and the Washington Times.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
The Met responded with this:
I don't see them giving much of a ship.
I don't see them giving much of a ship.
filmtwit
Desperate but not serious
New. York. Post. . . .
I think that Public Enemy put it best . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMo3uQpd40
I think that Public Enemy put it best . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMo3uQpd40
valdas
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So Lolita by Nabokov will be the next target?
bushwick1234
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In reality doesn't matter who printed this news. Besides, NYT is not what it was and stood for in the past.
bushwick1234
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That was precisely my concern...
Ko.Fe.
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What is my wife, mine and many other people concern I asked is as well. For how long this pedophile literature will be available?
valdas
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Ko.Fe.
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It is my and other people freedom to question some art.
Then I was student at the last semester, it was me and leader of Komsomol invited for head of the university office. I was very well fit and passed smart ass test. Komsomol guy was very loyal and I guess they have other plans for him. They asked me, how many states in USA? I didn't know. They asked me what are the political parties in USA? I didn't know.
By now I have many people I know personally in USA and for years. Including Dan Wagner. Ex-TV person and activist now and then he was helping us to build free and independent from communists media in Russia. If I need to know something about USA I could simply call him, or my school friend and to my past and current colleagues in the broadcast industry. Then in USA, we would drink sometimes after work like animals and talk about life as it is. But not about news papers. They are all just history, not news in USSR time and now. 🙂
Then I was in Manhattan and waiting for kids to come, I have a talk with big cheese. He told me about life in NYC like no papers will ever tell you. It is how you could make people to talk to you, not how papers made to talk to you.
Keep on reading. I'll keep on meet and talk to those who are alive.
Ko.Fe.
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Can't tell you. I read the original and in Russian. It could be like Jesus Christ Superstar and the Bible.
valdas
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And why did you read the “pedophile literature”? By the way, Lolita was originally written in English, Nabokov translated it to Russian more than 10 years later, so I am not sure what you consider original.
Peter Jennings
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Humans have (pure, questionable, dark, strange...) tendencies. It's better for those tendencies to be exposed and explored intellectually so that we can better understand them than it is to declare some of them off-limits. Art that disturbs is art that teaches - if one is open to being taught. Biologically speaking, it is perfectly natural for adult men to be attracted to pubescent girls. Culturally, it is totally unacceptable. This dichotomy is worth exploring intellectually.
Ko.Fe.
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I was teenager and it was one of the few book available for reading where I was at this time. I didn't know what sex is, never had sex. Was not into kissing at all. I was reading it and it feels strange. Why old dude is so strangely involved with kid like me?
It was in relatives house and I remember and I think I know who was making some strange notes in this book. Then I get older this person was strange to me....
I was very naive and not sexual at all. I was targeted by elder guys for sexual activities before this and have no clue. Then I was seventeen or eighteen guys called be gay and I have no idea what it is.
I guess, kids are more educated now. But kids are naive. It is not OK to show them what it is OK to pose sexually, nor it is OK to show lust for kid in the book or in the movie. At least it should be warning.
Recently we have interview with local lawyer who helps pedophiles. He is asking to change pedophilia to sex orientation in Canada. And then he openly told what fifteen years old girl involved with sexting with pedophile is evil woman and pedophile is the victim.
valdas
Veteran
I am sorry for bad experiences you had, but believev me, it is not the book or painting that makes the people who/what they are.
Brooklynguy
Established
Thank you for the correction.
peterm1
Veteran
Yes, you are right they are coming for us. It is let's bash a random man weak amongst the new wave of feminists.
In fact the art in question is a 1938 work by French artist Balthus (I wonder why no one has found it offensive till now - oh I know we are undergoing a wave of self induced insanity, that's why). A post on the Twitter account of the woman who started the petition reads "When I heard that Hugh Hefner died I wished I believed in hell". (I am not a fan of his and never have been, but I would not wish to see him in hell). Another post,about some art installation reads "The athletes are mere decoration, while the freaks and geeks take center stage as the true heroes.” Yep, freaks and geeks that is them - must support freaks and geeks above all else. Yet another post is in support of "Sustainability and Ethics in Fashion". (Less intolerant but predictably trendoid). So she is wearing her politics on her shirt sleeve for all to see. Yes she is yet another bloody trendoid - intolerant, self righteous and insufferable.
Oh Puke! I just loathe these prats who are against everything that its trendy to be against and are for everything that others in their cultural echo chamber are for - they do not even seem to think that other people are entitled to think differently. But, people say, she cares so deeply about this issue. Well, yes that's true - right up to the time it becomes fashionable to start petitioning to save seal puppies or something which is when she forgets about the painting and starts bothering people about other "issues" . And there is always another issue.
The reality is that the painting is slightly suggestive but not one I would regard as promoting pedophilia - something I would be ardently opposed to if it were. It does suggest perhaps, a young woman beginning to feel her pubescent sexuality. And it is nothing more or less than anything of this sort painted over the centuries by any of the great masters. Or for that matter anything else painted by any other artist through the ages. But the artist is a male to boot and that is really enough get for him in this new age of "tolerance". What is more he painted 11 paintings of this young woman - Burn them all!!! Then dig him up and burn him. (In fact some of his other paintings are somewhat more offensive than this one and I strongly suspect this is this painting's real offence - guilt by association).
I know, now we have started taking down art works lets finish by burning books. That's a good idea. A bit Hitlerian, but never mind. And while we are about it, I think the painting shown below by Botticelli is sexualizing young women. Lets start a petition to have it burned too. Maybe it is regarded as one of the great works of Western Civilization. Never mind lets tear that down too in our political zeal. Honest to God hasn't anyone ever heard of Mao's Cultural Revolution and the Red Guards and the horrors they perpetrated?
Bloody vandals!
In fact the art in question is a 1938 work by French artist Balthus (I wonder why no one has found it offensive till now - oh I know we are undergoing a wave of self induced insanity, that's why). A post on the Twitter account of the woman who started the petition reads "When I heard that Hugh Hefner died I wished I believed in hell". (I am not a fan of his and never have been, but I would not wish to see him in hell). Another post,about some art installation reads "The athletes are mere decoration, while the freaks and geeks take center stage as the true heroes.” Yep, freaks and geeks that is them - must support freaks and geeks above all else. Yet another post is in support of "Sustainability and Ethics in Fashion". (Less intolerant but predictably trendoid). So she is wearing her politics on her shirt sleeve for all to see. Yes she is yet another bloody trendoid - intolerant, self righteous and insufferable.
Oh Puke! I just loathe these prats who are against everything that its trendy to be against and are for everything that others in their cultural echo chamber are for - they do not even seem to think that other people are entitled to think differently. But, people say, she cares so deeply about this issue. Well, yes that's true - right up to the time it becomes fashionable to start petitioning to save seal puppies or something which is when she forgets about the painting and starts bothering people about other "issues" . And there is always another issue.
The reality is that the painting is slightly suggestive but not one I would regard as promoting pedophilia - something I would be ardently opposed to if it were. It does suggest perhaps, a young woman beginning to feel her pubescent sexuality. And it is nothing more or less than anything of this sort painted over the centuries by any of the great masters. Or for that matter anything else painted by any other artist through the ages. But the artist is a male to boot and that is really enough get for him in this new age of "tolerance". What is more he painted 11 paintings of this young woman - Burn them all!!! Then dig him up and burn him. (In fact some of his other paintings are somewhat more offensive than this one and I strongly suspect this is this painting's real offence - guilt by association).
I know, now we have started taking down art works lets finish by burning books. That's a good idea. A bit Hitlerian, but never mind. And while we are about it, I think the painting shown below by Botticelli is sexualizing young women. Lets start a petition to have it burned too. Maybe it is regarded as one of the great works of Western Civilization. Never mind lets tear that down too in our political zeal. Honest to God hasn't anyone ever heard of Mao's Cultural Revolution and the Red Guards and the horrors they perpetrated?
Bloody vandals!
Ko.Fe.
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Sorry, but who you are to believe? What do you know from I don't know?
I expirienced pedohilia in USSR, our dather was approached once here on the street, another time by same kind in the taxi. Police is doing nothing about it. We have two pedophile teachers in small town for two years n the row.
We have person responsible for sex education program at schools in Ontario, pictured sitting beside current Canada PM and Ontario PM. He was leader of pedofile ring and teaching how to force kids to sex.
And some like you are telling me what is it OK to show pedofilia motivated things on public. Why, if this is falling on people in real life and here is no help...
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