telenous
Well-known
Three masterpiece lenses?
Summicron 75 AA, Summilux 50 Asph, Elmarit 24 Asph or Biogon 25 (they seem to be on a par save for price, so the advantage is for the Biogon, which also focuses very usefully down to .50m) are all flawless with the Summicon 75 AA andf Summilux 50 Asph. quite possibly on a class of their own.
For a two lens kit, the Summilux 50 Asph and the Summilux 35 Asph. are the ones I want to have. The Summilux 35 Asph. is the sweetest lens I have ever tried, regardless of focal length, but it is not a 'masterpiece' in the way the three (well, four) lenses above are.
Summicron 75 AA, Summilux 50 Asph, Elmarit 24 Asph or Biogon 25 (they seem to be on a par save for price, so the advantage is for the Biogon, which also focuses very usefully down to .50m) are all flawless with the Summicon 75 AA andf Summilux 50 Asph. quite possibly on a class of their own.
For a two lens kit, the Summilux 50 Asph and the Summilux 35 Asph. are the ones I want to have. The Summilux 35 Asph. is the sweetest lens I have ever tried, regardless of focal length, but it is not a 'masterpiece' in the way the three (well, four) lenses above are.
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Mackinaw
Think Different
My dream three-lens set: 35mm Summilux ASPH, 50mm Noctilux and 75mm Summilux.
What I have: 35mm Summicron ASPH, Canon 50mm/1.4 LTM, and a 75mm Summilux.
Jim B.
What I have: 35mm Summicron ASPH, Canon 50mm/1.4 LTM, and a 75mm Summilux.
Jim B.
gertf
Established
My dream 3 lens set: 21mm/3.4 Super-Angulon, 35mm Summicron ASPH, 105mm/2.5 LTM PC-Nikkor
Make it 4 lens set by including Canon 50mm/1.2 or 1.4 LTM.
Looking for that elusive Super-Angulon now as well as a nice Canon and the set will be complete..
Make it 4 lens set by including Canon 50mm/1.2 or 1.4 LTM.
Looking for that elusive Super-Angulon now as well as a nice Canon and the set will be complete..
peter_n
Veteran
What a totally apt description!telenous said:The Summilux 35 Asph. is the sweetest lens I have ever tried, regardless of focal length...
pluto
Steve George
50 pre-aspheric Summilux, 28 Elmarit (type 4) and 21 Elmarit (E60). If I had to take two, I'd take that 50 and the 21. If I had to settle for one I'd take the 28.
Paul C. Perkins MD
Perk11350
Canon 25mm F:3.5 w/finder
Canon 50mm F:1.2
Canon 100mm F:2.0
Canon 50mm F:1.2
Canon 100mm F:2.0
Paul C. Perkins MD
Perk11350
Canon 25mm F:3.5 w/finder
Canon 50mm F:1.2
Canon 100mm F:2.0
Nuff said. . .
Canon 50mm F:1.2
Canon 100mm F:2.0
Nuff said. . .
Photar
Established
My favorite trio:
1.4 35mm ASPH Summilux
4.0 28-35-50mm ASPH Tri-Elmar
2.8 75mm ASPH (Pentax 67)
1.4 35mm ASPH Summilux
4.0 28-35-50mm ASPH Tri-Elmar
2.8 75mm ASPH (Pentax 67)
borismach
Established
21/3.4 super angulon
35/1.4 pre-asph
50/1.4 pre-asph
Should I have the chance to add one more, it would be 28/2.8 elmrit (Ver. I).
Wow! What a day dream to get them all...at one time!
It will cost me a fortune!
bm
35/1.4 pre-asph
50/1.4 pre-asph
Should I have the chance to add one more, it would be 28/2.8 elmrit (Ver. I).
Wow! What a day dream to get them all...at one time!
JNewell
Leica M Recidivist
35mm Asph Summicron or Summilux
50mm pre-Asph Summilux
90mm Apo-Asph Summicron
50mm pre-Asph Summilux
90mm Apo-Asph Summicron
akptc
Shoot first, think later
I am curious, why do some folks prefer the pre-asph 50mm Summilux to the latest aspherical version?
arseniii
Well-known
in my opinion it's:
-Planar 45mm G lens (just incredable 3d look)
-Summicron 35mm 4th(OOO Bokeh ooo this bokeh)
-summicron 50 3d
-Planar 45mm G lens (just incredable 3d look)
-Summicron 35mm 4th(OOO Bokeh ooo this bokeh)
-summicron 50 3d
maddoc
... likes film again.
akptc said:I am curious, why do some folks prefer the pre-asph 50mm Summilux to the latest aspherical version?
Because the 50mm pre-ASPH, which is not as perfect as the latest ASPH version - renders images in a special way when used wide open. Many call it soft but to my opinion it is more like a lower (micro-)contrast. It goes into the same direction as the Noctilux or Summilux 75mm.
peter_n
Veteran
Agreed. They produce such different results especailly at the wider apertures. The sharpness of the ASPH wide-open cannot be matched by the pre-ASPH, but that is the point I think. But the pre-ASPH is not soft, stop it down and it becomes very sharp indeed. Both are terrific!
maddoc
... likes film again.
borismach said:21/3.4 super angulon
35/1.4 pre-asph
50/1.4 pre-asph
Should I have the chance to add one more, it would be 28/2.8 elmrit (Ver. I).
Wow! What a day dream to get them all...at one time!It will cost me a fortune!
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bm
This kit llooks familiar to me
akptc
Shoot first, think later
Would this (latest pre-asph?) version of the lux have the qualities you describe? I've tried the asph lux and liked the results (on the RD-1) but wonder if perhaps I should get this one instead to start with.
thomasw_
Well-known
one lens kit:
zm 35/2
two lens kit:
zm 25/2,8 and lux 50/1,4
three lens kit:
zm 25/2,8 zm 35/2 lux 50/1,4
four lens kit:
add a zm 50/2 to the threesome above
zm 35/2
two lens kit:
zm 25/2,8 and lux 50/1,4
three lens kit:
zm 25/2,8 zm 35/2 lux 50/1,4
four lens kit:
add a zm 50/2 to the threesome above
maddoc
... likes film again.
akptc said:Would this (latest pre-asph?) version of the lux have the qualities you describe? I've tried the asph lux and liked the results (on the RD-1) but wonder if perhaps I should get this one instead to start with.
That lens is the screwmount version of the one I (and some others here) have and like. The screwmount version is quite rare, BTW ! If I remember exactly, the optical formular hasn't changed from the version with E43 filter thread to the E46 version, the E46 allows for closer focussing (down to 0.7m) and could have improved coating (but not sure about this).
peter_n
Veteran
It is an excellent lens with a closest focus of 0.7M as distinct from 1M for the previous two versions of this lens. Many many people prefer this version for the close focus and it is also thought that the coating is better. This lens is silver so brass barrel and rings = heavy. Also I personally don't like the slide-out lens hood but you may be fine with that. Looks good...akptc said:Would this (latest pre-asph?) version of the lux have the qualities you describe? I've tried the asph lux and liked the results (on the RD-1) but wonder if perhaps I should get this one instead to start with.
Edit: whoops I didn't see the above post which makes similar points...
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Bob Michaels
nobody special
35mmdelux said:In your opinion, which are the three best to own?
Which is the best two lens kit?
Best two lens kit:
Mamiya 7 80mm
Mamiya 7 50mm
(remember 35mm film was not specified)
Best three lens kit:
Above two (w/ Mamiya 7 body of course)
Contax 35mm Planar w G1 body
(nor was it specified they had to fit same body)
I think I could do almost everything with above three lenses. And, do it very well.
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