Tmax 3200 may be gone :(

Freestyle wasn't much help. Just got off the phone with Kodak and it seems like it really is just backordered. Sold out. They guy said they are working on fulfilling the orders and expect it will happen by mid April.
 
I have had good luck with the film past the expiration but it probably loses all it's great properties about a year past the expiration date, if you are lucky. I agree it gets a base fog and loses contrast, speed and the nicer qualities of the grain when dated. When fresh, it has beautiful grain and nice sharpness and contrast. I typically rate the film at 1250 or try to over expose by one stop. I have heard it is really an 800 speed film. I just sold a brick dated 4/07. I was not thrilled with the results compared to fresh film. I have about 10 rolls and may just unload those as well since I have only been shooting Kodachrome lately.
 
I don't shoot a lot of TMZ, but the Delta 3200 I occasionally shoot certainly ages the way you guys have described. I actually like it when it's super-fresh a lot more than when it's even a few months before its expiry date. I got some from Freestyle a couple of years ago that was obviously a very fresh batch and the rolls I shot later that week had the lowest base fog I've ever seen on a film so fast.
 
These past days I tried to buy (locally, Barcelona) some TMZ, and couldn't find one single roll, and I mean after going in person to the big stores that have always sold it... One of those stores (ARPI) is considered the second biggest store (five levels) in the world (first is B&H New York)... Not a single roll anywhere in the city...

Mmmmm...

Then I went back today, because last week, the two stores I use the most were about to receive their new Kodak film shipment, and they did: both of them received everything but TMZ, and their inventory from Kodak just said, in front of TMZ, "pending"...

Mmmmm...
 
I could have sworn that I read something on APUG to the effect of TMZ being discontinued but the search feature is not being very helpful in finding the thread. Looking at Kodak's web site, TXP was the last film to be discontinued. TMZ is still showing as an active product.
 
Ok guys, what is so hard to understand about
Just got off the phone with Kodak and it seems like it really is just backordered. Sold out.
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Kodak so far has never discontinued a product without notice - that is the one point where their dreaded bureaucracy works in our favour...
 
viridari said:
I could have sworn that I read something on APUG to the effect of TMZ being discontinued but the search feature is not being very helpful in finding the thread. Looking at Kodak's web site, TXP was the last film to be discontinued. TMZ is still showing as an active product.
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When TXP was discontinued, someone said TMZ was too. One of the film guys at Kodak replied to an email to that effect and said yes TXP was, but TMZ was not. There has been no announcement that is has been.

As I posted a couple posts above, I called Kodak and asked about TMZ. They said they were completely out of it and that it looked like they were planning to fulfill orders by mid-April.

They could certainly decided to kill it now or in a month. Who knows. But all official communications on the matter have affirmed that it is NOT discontinued, it is back ordered, and those orders will be fulfilled.
 
Yes, we know that because you and others said it...

But it's strange that Kodak has no TMZ.

Ultrahigh sales on March or what?

I don't use the film at all, but I'm curious... I'd be glad to see it replaced by a better version, of course...

Cheers,

Juan
 
Hm - tried to buy TMZ in Munich and only managed to get some rolls that were just about to expire. When I asked the salesman in one of the reputed photo stores over here, I was told Kodak is discontinuing this film. I haven't found any official note pertaining to this film by Kodak though.

I hope TimGray is right.
 
Dear Juan,

Ilford reckoned that demand was not high enough to warrant coating Delta 3200 in 120, so the 120 is actually converted from the same rolls as 35mm. Kodak may be suffering from hardening of the categories when it comes to 120.

Cheers,

R.
 
Thanks, Roger!

Well, if Kodak didn't even do it the way you say Ilford did, I guess they will never do it... It's a shame, because a new and improved TMZ in 120 would be nice for handholding a Hassy in low light...

Cheers,

Juan
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
But it's strange that Kodak has no TMZ.

Ultrahigh sales on March or what?
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Who knows. They might coat it once a month, or once a year, or even once every two years. Though I doubt the former.

Word was that the last batch of Kodachrome that went late last year was coated several years before - I read 2006? Regardless, if you only coat a product once every year or so, and demand increases a bit for some reason you didn't account for, I could see where you could get caught with your pants down.

Best thing to do is to call Kodak and ask. The guy there is really nice. 1-800-242-2424, ext 19.
 
I am sure if Kodak has not in mind a new TMZ, they'll keep offering the previous one... They can't just be considered "the brand that offers no fast film". It wouldn't be a wise move... Better to design the new best fast film for B&W and cut it in 120 too!

Cheers,

Juan
 
fro lovers of this stuff ya hafta to try this. can't remember if it was hc110 but most likely tmax developer though and don't have times but soup it at 100° F. Was SOP for newspaper darkrooms/ or those on the road when I was using it.
 
TWoK said:
Kodak is already the company that offers no fast slide films. They are the company that only sells slow films.
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Most of the wonderful reasons to use slide film disappear when going to 400... That's what in my opinion happens with provia400x by fuji... And that's why Kodak doesn't show too much interest in fast slide film... Or do you think they have no technical ways to make it? But that has no relation with them producing or not any black and white film, and I referred to Fuji's P1600 and Ilford's D3200: why would Kodak want to lose that niche totally? TMZ is a well respected film... And Kodak produces the best color fast film: Portra800.

Cheers,

Juan
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
Problem is expired TMZ is basically worthless. This film quickly gets very grainy and loses speed past its expiry date. Even if frozen.
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Agreed. Delta3200 has the same problem. Believe it or not it is due to cosmic (background?) radiation. I kid you not.

So, freezing won't help. Maybe storing it in a lead case to shield it would help, but I'm not sure if even that will stop such particles.
 
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