bryceesquerre
Member
Hi all. I didn't know exactly where to put this. I got an offer to trade my Voigtlander Bessa R2 with Color Skopar 50mm 2.5 for a fuji x100. Both are in near perfect condition and come with the boxes. Is this a bad deal for me? I haven't been able to sell this thing for a while and really want to get a digi (as i no longer have money to shoot film).
P.S. I only paid 400 for the setup in the first place.
P.S. I only paid 400 for the setup in the first place.
CliveC
Well-known
The market value for a X100 is about $500-$600. Good deal I think.
Then again, people seem to think the upgrades in the X100S are worth the premium. I've been contemplating the same thing myself (scraping together $600 for a X100 that is).
Then again, people seem to think the upgrades in the X100S are worth the premium. I've been contemplating the same thing myself (scraping together $600 for a X100 that is).
back alley
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go for it!
kxl
Social Documentary
I always look at utility first, cost-comparison second (within reason, that is).
If your film rig is just sitting in the closet (or you've been trying to sell it for a while) and you are certain you will use the digi, then the digi would have a higher utility value to you.
W/re cost comparison, if the difference is reasonable (i.e., NOT orders of magnitude), as it would seem to be with this one, then it's a good trade.
Go for it.
If your film rig is just sitting in the closet (or you've been trying to sell it for a while) and you are certain you will use the digi, then the digi would have a higher utility value to you.
W/re cost comparison, if the difference is reasonable (i.e., NOT orders of magnitude), as it would seem to be with this one, then it's a good trade.
Go for it.
f16sunshine
Moderator
The skopar will be worth more than the r2 and x100 combined at some point in the future.
Lenses hold their value everything else does not.
That said... I would go for it. The x100 is a much more versatile camera and really delivers the goods. Current values put you on top.
Lenses hold their value everything else does not.
That said... I would go for it. The x100 is a much more versatile camera and really delivers the goods. Current values put you on top.
kermaier
Well-known
Well, I'd estimate the CV 50/2.5 would sell for about $400 today; dunno about the R2 -- say $200? A used Fuji X100 is probably a $500-$600 item these days. If you can be sure the X100 doesn't have the sticky aperture issue (either by serial number or documented repair), then I'd say it's a fair trade, give or take $50.
Another thing you want to ask yourself is whether you're comfortable moving from a 50mm FOV to a 35mm-equivalent FOV.
BTW, I love my X100 (which I paid full price for when it was released), and can recommend it highly as an all-around camera.
Regards,
::Ari
Another thing you want to ask yourself is whether you're comfortable moving from a 50mm FOV to a 35mm-equivalent FOV.
BTW, I love my X100 (which I paid full price for when it was released), and can recommend it highly as an all-around camera.
Regards,
::Ari
GaryLH
Veteran
If u aren't using it, sell it if it has no intrinsic value to u. In terms of basic idea of how much your film setup is worth, I suspect selling separately vs package may be easier...
It sounds like a decent deal to me. The only thing I would check is serial number to c if this body is in the same lot where the known SAB issues are. If so ask if the original owner has had issues or the sticky blades replaced by Fuji.
I have an early x100 that has the serial number from lot w/ bad SAB, but knock on would have never had the problem.. I bought it as soon as it was released in the US. I still use it to this day w/o problems. No plans to upgrade to x100s until it dies.
Gary
It sounds like a decent deal to me. The only thing I would check is serial number to c if this body is in the same lot where the known SAB issues are. If so ask if the original owner has had issues or the sticky blades replaced by Fuji.
I have an early x100 that has the serial number from lot w/ bad SAB, but knock on would have never had the problem.. I bought it as soon as it was released in the US. I still use it to this day w/o problems. No plans to upgrade to x100s until it dies.
Gary
bryceesquerre
Member
Thank you for all of the help guys. You all are very quick and i appreciate it. The camera's serial starts with 11A. From what i gather this is not part of the SAB lot? I'm almost sure that i'm going to go for it. I've heard wonderful things about the X100, and my Bessa R2 is as kxl put it, just sitting in the closet.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Color Skopar 50mm 2.5 are very rare now, it is closer to $500. R2 is around $300.
bryceesquerre
Member
Hmmm. I haven't found anyone interested in buying it though. I also haven't put it on here yet, i might do that and see if anyone is interested.
froyd
Veteran
Do post in on the RFF classifieds, I waited over 3 months to find a silver one in great shape and I would have snapped it up if I'd seen one on the RFF classifieds. Paid USD 375, if I remember well. That was 10 months ago or so.
KyleCharles
Vagabond
I agree with everything that has been said so far in this thread. One thing to keep in mind is that your 50mm Skopar and your R2 will hold their value or might even be worth more in the future (especially the Skopar). By the same token, you might want to ask yourself how much the x100 will be worth in the next few years (especially considering what is happening now with small cameras).
Bottom line is that from a purely financial standpoint, it seems like a fair trade at this point in time, but this will probably not hold true in the not too distant future. Factoring in "digital rot" vs. film cost is the thing to consider. From a useability point of view, only you can decide that. Cameras are of little use sitting in the closet.
Bottom line is that from a purely financial standpoint, it seems like a fair trade at this point in time, but this will probably not hold true in the not too distant future. Factoring in "digital rot" vs. film cost is the thing to consider. From a useability point of view, only you can decide that. Cameras are of little use sitting in the closet.
GaryLH
Veteran
I suspect that 35mm camera body prices have not bottom out yet though especially for rf cameras.. Slr camera bodies probably bottomed out though or close. The lenses are a different matter.. Well respected hard to find lenses may start to go up soon, if they have not already.
The biggest issue is which film will survive.. I am pretty confident that we will have film w/ us for a very long time to come. For example, I can still buy my odd ball 9x12 sheet film for cameras that have not been manufactured since maybe mid 40s. What are we going to do when there is no close substitute for our favorite film?
Lens can always be re-used on mirrorless camera bodies..
Gary
The biggest issue is which film will survive.. I am pretty confident that we will have film w/ us for a very long time to come. For example, I can still buy my odd ball 9x12 sheet film for cameras that have not been manufactured since maybe mid 40s. What are we going to do when there is no close substitute for our favorite film?
Lens can always be re-used on mirrorless camera bodies..
Gary