SimonPJ
Well-known
I am planning to sell some gear in the new year and have been trying to figure out what the new Brexit trade deal means for private sellers in the UK selling to buyers in the EU.
Is there any possibility that customs duty or VAT will be charged to EU buyers of second hand camera gear from the UK?
Do even private, non-business, sellers of second hand goods require a GB EORI number when selling to the EU after 1/1/21?
If you have figured these and any other relevant questions out I would be very grateful for any pointers!
All best wishes for the New Year,
Simon
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Is there any possibility that customs duty or VAT will be charged to EU buyers of second hand camera gear from the UK?
Do even private, non-business, sellers of second hand goods require a GB EORI number when selling to the EU after 1/1/21?
If you have figured these and any other relevant questions out I would be very grateful for any pointers!
All best wishes for the New Year,
Simon
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Out to Lunch
Ventor
The bureaucrats will need time to figure it out amongst themselves. Better wait. Cheers, OtL
retinax
Well-known
I think the deal is no customs and duties, not sure about VAT, but I don't think it's likely. That would be something both jurisdictions would have to decide for incoming goods btw, so a last something that can't be blamed on the outside entity.
Dralowid
Michael
Trawl through this lot, the message is loud and clear, leave it for a few weeks and wait and see. Allow someone else to be the guinea pig.
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=173147
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=173147
Guy Pinhas
Well-known
What OTL says. I wrote the following in another thread.
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3010332&postcount=23
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3010332&postcount=23
The bureaucrats will need time to figure it out amongst themselves. Better wait. Cheers, OtL
SimonPJ
Well-known
Thanks all. The fact that the powers that be are making it up as they go along seems to be the only constant these days...
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Niko
Established
I don´t know about other EU countries, but in Finland we have to pay duties and VAT for anything coming from UK starting today.
Highway 61
Revisited
As a private person, being a seldom and non professional seller of second hand things, you will just have to faithfully fill a green CN-22 form and paste it on your package when you ship abroad with Royal Mail, like normal people. The risk (duties plus EU 20% VAT applied ontop the declared value and duties) is on your EU resident buyer. Russian roulette, sort of. In the EU country where I live, any goodie coming from outside the EU and declared to cost more than forty seven euros, even vintage second hand and even undutied several times in the past, can be caught by the customs radar.
Let's see it this way : onwards from now it is highly possible that EU buyers may hesitate to buy (expensive) used camera gear from the UK, because it's now the same as buying from, say, Australia, Canada, Japan, the USA.
Let's see it this way : onwards from now it is highly possible that EU buyers may hesitate to buy (expensive) used camera gear from the UK, because it's now the same as buying from, say, Australia, Canada, Japan, the USA.
Nitroplait
Well-known
I don´t know about other EU countries, but in Finland we have to pay duties and VAT for anything coming from UK starting today.
You don't have to pay duties if the traded item is covered by the EU-UK trade agreement that was just approved, but VAT is a given.
Anyway, duties are normally just a tiny percentage and rarely a big deal for the end user. VAT and the cost of handling is what hurts on used items.
As Highway 61 says, UK is now in the same category as US, Japan etc. and I will have to set my ebay filter to exclude UK from my search results, Just as I do now with all items from outside EU.
It is a pity, but what a majority of the UK wanted.
raid
Dad Photographer
If you live in the UK, you may do better by working within the UK just as I prefer to buy from within the US. It makes things easier.
View Range
Well-known
After Brexit, why would selling to the EU be any different than selling to any other country, such as the US? I buy from E-bay UK occasionally without any issues. Tariffs/taxes are my problem; the seller has no role in tariffs/taxes other than providing information on the shipping paperwork.
Highway 61
Revisited
Raid, now the problem is, that the UK is full of sellers but buyers empty.If you live in the UK, you may do better by working within the UK just as I prefer to buy from within the US. It makes things easier.
Out to Lunch
Ventor
For the gourmets: an overview of trade agreements concluded by the EU: https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/negotiations-and-agreements/
pedaes
Member
I have just had an item bought by someone in US through the "International Shipping Programme". E-bay then do all the paperwork, and will be same for what remains as EU. No cost to seller and no problem.
valdas
Veteran
I have just had an item bought by someone in US through the "International Shipping Programme". E-bay then do all the paperwork, and will be same for what remains as EU. No cost to seller and no problem.
I was buying this way (US to EU) with that program - all import taxes (duties and VAT) are already calculated and included. It is not cheaper (or cheap to begin with), but saves all the potential headache.
valdas
Veteran
Raid, now the problem is, that the UK is full of sellers but buyers empty.![]()
It is an interesting observation and quite correct. When one analyzes “sold” item prices it is very obvious that items that were sold domestically (in UK) with the selling option “will not post overseas” have much lower price compared to those that were sold from UK without shipping restrictions.
valdas
Veteran
After Brexit, why would selling to the EU be any different than selling to any other country, such as the US? I buy from E-bay UK occasionally without any issues. Tariffs/taxes are my problem; the seller has no role in tariffs/taxes other than providing information on the shipping paperwork.
Being in EU I strongly prefer to buy from within EU - I save all the custom troubles and some 30% of value. So - selling will be different at least in one aspect - level of demand.
David Hughes
David Hughes
After reading this I decided to wait and see...
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tware-from-1990s-features-in-brexit-deal-text
Regards, David
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tware-from-1990s-features-in-brexit-deal-text
Regards, David
tbhv55
Well-known
After reading this I decided to wait and see...
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tware-from-1990s-features-in-brexit-deal-text
Oh, dear.
David Hughes
David Hughes
I'm wondering who they will blame for everything they do or get wrong as "europe" has been a convenient scapegoat but now...
And how long before we are told that they (the EU) insisted on Brexit and forced us into it; it fits the usual pattern.
Regards, David
And how long before we are told that they (the EU) insisted on Brexit and forced us into it; it fits the usual pattern.
Regards, David
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