Ultron 35mm f2 Aspherical vs Summicron 35mm f2 ASPH

[raid]

agree but this summicron is also asph-and it costs so much more-without anything better to offer for that money....

Maybe this is why I do not own any Leica ASPH lens.

 

[P3tr]

Thank you Jon, nice GAS generating test. I´m personally waiting for the new voigt 21/35 combo to arrive to Prague to test it.

 

[Erik van Straten]

The steel rim version is selling for $6000+ on ebay.

Yes, I know. I actually have two of them.

Erik.

 

[Erik van Straten]

It would be also interesting to compare the Ultron 35mm f/2 with the recent Ultron 35mm f/1.7. The f/2 is much smaller, but the f/1.7 is hard to beat optically.

Erik.

 

[danieldouloslee]

I am curious how this lens fares in micro contrast and sharpness with the 35 Zeiss Biogons. Anyone have any input?

 

[Huss]

Also notice the flare in the Summicron shot around the sign in the top center of the image

Nice work! Yeah, my Summicron Asph is one of my most flare affected lenses that I have. Really quite disappointing. I've noticed this too with my other Leica glass such as the Summilux Asph 50. This is shooting without filters and of course using the lens hood. For pics where I don't want flare I use my Zeiss ZM lenses.

 

[Erik van Straten]

Also notice the flare in the Summicron shot around the sign in the top center of the image

Nice work! Yeah, my Summicron Asph is one of my most flare affected lenses that I have.

I saw the flare too in the above shot by Jon. Disappointing.

Erik.

 

[Huss]

I saw the flare too in the above shot by Jon. Disappointing.

Erik.

I don't understand why Leica gets a pass on this. People bag on the 7Artisans 35mm f2 for being flarey, but it is more resistant than my Summicron!
My 28 Asph is fantastic against flare, so Leica can do it.

 

[Erik van Straten]

The Summicron 35mm f/2 V1 also has a propensity to flare, but different, more spread over the whole image. The Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim is also not free from it in situations like this.

Erik.

 

[nzeeman]

It would be also interesting to compare the Ultron 35mm f/2 with the recent Ultron 35mm f/1.7. The f/2 is much smaller, but the f/1.7 is hard to beat optically.

Erik.

it would be fun with both f1.7... i gues new one is better because they changed formula a bit and added a group-so i guess everything is nicely corrected...

 

[Highway 61]

The Summicron 35mm f/2 V1 also has a propensity to flare, but different, more spread over the whole image.

Agreed. I just scanned a few photos I shot in 1988 with a Summicron-M 35mm f/2 V1 and now I am quite shocked by the very visible flare, which spreads over the whole image actually, even in situations in which no normal lens should flare the least bit.

This new Ultron looks quite appealing wasn't it for the vignetting. No f/2 lens should vignette like this at f/4.

It would be interesting to have it compared with the Biogon ZM 35mm f/2 at all apertures (something which will be done shortly, for sure).

Thanks to Jon for this anyway.

 

[Archlich]

The steel rim version is selling for $6000+ on ebay.

Exactly the reason Voigtlander makes the 35/1.4 Nokton, both single and multi coated.

The Ultron suits my need well.

 

[trisberg]

Thanks for posting these. This new Ultron looks really good. Too bad I just bought a new Summicron ASPH 🙂.

I did like the Biogion f2 that I used with an M9 some years ago, that was a really nice lens. This new Ultron looks to be even better. I never really warmed up to my 35/1.4 Nokton, the focus shift kept bothering me.

-Thomas

 

[Bingley]

It would be also interesting to compare the Ultron 35mm f/2 with the recent Ultron 35mm f/1.7. The f/2 is much smaller, but the f/1.7 is hard to beat optically.

Erik.

Yes indeed. I’ve been looking closely at the threads. The new ultron looks v promising and the small size is a huge plus for me, but there’s no questioning the performance of the M-Ultron 35/1.7.

 

[bayernfan]

the voigtlander lenses have modern optical formulas. why not give them modern ergonomics? :bang: the 35/1.7 and new 35/2 leave quite a bit to be desired in that regard.

 

[loneranger]

Is the Ultron only sold in japan? Where can we buy it in the US ?

 

[EVIL_Guy]

Is the Ultron only sold in japan? Where can we buy it in the US ?

Have a look here:
https://shop.cameraquest.com/vintage_vogit_35f2

 

[EVIL_Guy]

it would be fun with both f1.7... i gues new one is better because they changed formula a bit and added a group-so i guess everything is nicely corrected...

I don't think it's better than the f1.7 but we will see it soon in a direct comparison.
For me the bokeh is key!
If the new one has the same quality of bokeh and sharpness @f2 as the Ultron f1.7 @f2, I will switch to the new one.
The only thing I'm not happy with from the f1.7 lens is that I'm missing a focus tab or stick.

 

[nzeeman]

I don't think it's better than the f1.7 but we will see it soon in a direct comparison.
For me the bokeh is key!
If the new one has the same quality of bokeh and sharpness @f2 as the Ultron f1.7 @f2, I will switch to the new one.
The only thing I'm not happy with from the f1.7 lens is that I'm missing a focus tab or stick.

sorry i didnt write correctly what i wanted to say-i thougjt new f1.7 is surely better than old f1.7 and f2 because it was corrected old f1.7 formula-while f2 is closer to old f1.7 optically... but i would choose f2 because more compact and it has good enough performance (if i had enough money for it)

 

[jsrockit]

the voigtlander lenses have modern optical formulas. why not give them modern ergonomics? :bang: the 35/1.7 and new 35/2 leave quite a bit to be desired in that regard.

So you want them to be autofocus? 😂