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joachim

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Following Cat Face's thread http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57215 with a large number of members suggesting to process B&W films on your own, I am wondering what you guys and gals are doing to your used developers and fixers. These are not so environmentally friendly and putting them down the drain is plain illegal in most European countries 😱

When using a commercial lab, this is all taken care for you.
 
Following Cat Face's thread http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57215 with a large number of members suggesting to process B&W films on your own, I am wondering what you guys and gals are doing to your used developers and fixers. These are not so environmentally friendly and putting them down the drain is plain illegal in most European countries 😱

When using a commercial lab, this is all taken care for you.

Check with your local municipal organization.

In the USA, the laws vary by state to state and even by city or county. I would say that enforcement is lax - most people do as they please without repercussions.

However, for those in the US who wish to comply with disposal laws regarding photographic chemicals, I have found they are most often handled at the county level (if they are handled at all - some do, some don't). If you do a Google search for hazardous waste disposal and your county name and state, you may find a collection point. Some even list photographic chemicals as being one of the items you can drop off.

I have found that calling the city or county is often a waste of time, because the clerks there seldom know what you're talking about - you might as well be speaking of moon rocks for all they understand (I had one suggest I call NASA).
 
Being a member of a local organic society, this is something that has concerned me as well. The best I've come up with so far is to use XTOL for dev (handy because I tend to push b/w film a lot, and this is a good dev for that) and Silvergrain Clearfix Alkaline Fixer which is supposed to be a bit less toxic, a bit less smelly, and so far I've found it to be rather fast.

A while back I looked at the MSDS for XTOL and it looks as if it's mostly harmless and biodegradable. The fixer, which you should reuse until spent, will have silver in it. That silver can in fact be a problem for municipal water facilities. If there are any shops in the area that process b/w film in-house, you might ask them if they run their spent fixer through cartridges to reclaim the silver. I happened to find a gal that does that not far from here, and gave her a ring. She was more than happy to "process" my gallon of spent fixer, but I haven't had a chance to get over there yet (a bit of a drive.)

Yes, you can call your local waste management people, but chances are they are not going to know anything about photo chemicals and which ones are OK and which ones are not. I called mine and they felt that everything is toxic waste and should be treated as such, without even looking at the MSDS sheets for the stuff I'm using. So I asked this gal if the city gave her a hard time about the stuff she was using. She said at first yes, but then insisted they take the time to actually study the stuff she was using and how she was reclaiming the silver. In the end they said what she was doing was OK. So that sounds reasonable to me.

If there's no other recourse, you might see if your city has a door-side toxic waste pickup. More and more cities are starting to do this.
 
Developers, especially in the amounts used by amateurs, can safely go down the drain in most municipalities. Stop bath, which is like very strong vinegar, likewise. I take fixer to a local x-ray lab---they recover the silver and dispose of the rest. Depending on the spot price of silver, they make some money on it.
 
Developers, especially in the amounts used by amateurs, can safely go down the drain in most municipalities. Stop bath, which is like very strong vinegar, likewise. I take fixer to a local x-ray lab---they recover the silver and dispose of the rest. Depending on the spot price of silver, they make some money on it.

I am not going to get deeply into this thread, but I will say that we've a) had this exact discussion here many times before, and b) giving out advice like this is dangerous. In many municipalities, putting used photographic chemicals down the drain is illegal. Regardless of whether or not it is safe, it's like giving someone advice to go ahead and run stopsigns because most of time, you get away with it.

If a person cares to check - check you local government. If they don't care, then they don't care. I'm not going to give anyone advice that might be against the law where they are.

Here is a simple example - Passaic, New Jersey. It took me all of 30 seconds to find with Google. Not all counties and municipalities have such disposal, but it might be worth a few minutes out of your life to check yourself.

http://www.passaiccountynj.org/departments/naturalresources/hhw.htm

If you care, get off your half moons and check. If you don't, then don't. And that's it for this thread.
 
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