ferider
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ErikFive said:
They could just release a "fake Noctilux" code that could be used to create
the right signature with any 50, digitally.
Roland.🙂
Vignetting Shminetting - What's The Big Deal?
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They could just release a "fake Noctilux" code that could be used to create
the right signature with any 50, digitally.
Roland.🙂
photogdave
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Many technical camera and lens testers, ie DPReview, PhotoDo etc, do specific vignetting tests that show virtually every lens on the planet vignettes wide open.
This gives the armchair amateur photographer ammunition when they go into the camera store. "I hear this lens has vignetting problems etc."
I think that these types of tests do a certain disservice to customers and manufacturers. Some shadowy corners on a completely white background rarely translate to visible vignetting in real world photographs. So now vignetting is an unfortunate buzzword like "bokeh" or "chromatic aberration". People who do not know what these words mean use them as basis points for determining lens quality for no good reason.
I've met people who will not buy a lens unless PhotoDo gives it a good rating. Ridiculous!
This gives the armchair amateur photographer ammunition when they go into the camera store. "I hear this lens has vignetting problems etc."
I think that these types of tests do a certain disservice to customers and manufacturers. Some shadowy corners on a completely white background rarely translate to visible vignetting in real world photographs. So now vignetting is an unfortunate buzzword like "bokeh" or "chromatic aberration". People who do not know what these words mean use them as basis points for determining lens quality for no good reason.
I've met people who will not buy a lens unless PhotoDo gives it a good rating. Ridiculous!
R
RML
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photogdave said:
Hey! What did bokeh ever do to you?! 😛
But you're right. Every lens can be used to take pictures/make photos. If only one knew how to use it properly.
We'll see how the I-69 28/2.8 half-frame lens does with a full-frame camera. test roll is in.
If you want to use a lens wide-open that does not vignette, the image-circle "essentially' has to be designed for a larger format camera. The Perspective-Control lens is like that. Essentially take a Medium Format lens and put it on a 35mm camera. That way when you shift it, the image circle still fills the frame. So virtually no vignetting when used wide-open. I've got a 51mm F1.5 Raptar designed for a TLR that would do great on an 35mm RF. Just have to figure out how to make a mount for it.
If you want to use a lens wide-open that does not vignette, the image-circle "essentially' has to be designed for a larger format camera. The Perspective-Control lens is like that. Essentially take a Medium Format lens and put it on a 35mm camera. That way when you shift it, the image circle still fills the frame. So virtually no vignetting when used wide-open. I've got a 51mm F1.5 Raptar designed for a TLR that would do great on an 35mm RF. Just have to figure out how to make a mount for it.
Roger Hicks
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Vignetting is bad news if you only ever shoot test charts and neutral tones, preferably at full aperture, instead of real pictures. I totally agree with photogdave.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
shadowfox
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photogdave said:
I've acquired lenses that came with cameras that I purchased as a kit and some of them are excellent lenses. Names like Promaster Spectrum 7 or CPC. These won't even make it to the test-chart-shooter's schedule to be "examined" 😀
charjohncarter
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williams473
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Sally Mann is one of my favorite photographers, and she has used vignetting extensively in her work - espeically landscape. As I understand it she using an 8 x 10 camera with older lenses that are not capable of covering the full sheet of film, so the vignette is created by being able to see the edge of the image circle on the film in places. I think she uses this technique to great effect, with masterful control. I don't shoot large format, but I believe the same effect can be acheived by inverting the lens on the camera. Here is a link to an example from her latest book...
http://www.kpbs.org/blogs2/images/uploads/whatremains.photo03.jpg
I believe images like this connect to viewers on an very subjective and base level - it is a way of admitting the precision-less-ness of life - the partly grasped perceptions we all have of things, and how ordinary objects can be imbued with meaning through manipulation.
Matt
http://www.kpbs.org/blogs2/images/uploads/whatremains.photo03.jpg
I believe images like this connect to viewers on an very subjective and base level - it is a way of admitting the precision-less-ness of life - the partly grasped perceptions we all have of things, and how ordinary objects can be imbued with meaning through manipulation.
Matt
benlees
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Haha! I did exactly the same thing! Except I did it with a Vivitar 28mm2.8- thought I had the 50mm on there. My wife saw the pictures and thought I did it on purpose to make them look 'cool'! 'Of course I did...'
gnashings
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georgef
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I like vignetting...come to think of it, I dont think I have ever printed a picture I took with an RF that I remove it !?!!
Plus, removing it from my pics is a single step action in photoshop: I callibrated a dodge and burn command tree once for each lens that vignettes, so its the push of a single button: F2, F3 or F4. I sold my Canon 50 1.2, so F5 is no longer required LOL.
Plus, removing it from my pics is a single step action in photoshop: I callibrated a dodge and burn command tree once for each lens that vignettes, so its the push of a single button: F2, F3 or F4. I sold my Canon 50 1.2, so F5 is no longer required LOL.