W/NW Let's see some wristwatches! (II)

Reviving this thread with my one and only Grand Seiko.

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Taipei-metro said:
Peter you've strike...gold...
like coffee grower in S America, there should have a 'fair trade agreement', that you should pay 'more' for these kind of level of quality...😀

My Parnis, gmt, 40mm, ceremic bezel, sappire crystal, Chinese Minzu automatic movement...

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American Amazon sells Parnis and one other Chinese brand 'Phoibos' at a higher price point and quality, check out youtube for the review...and of course for those allergic to the word 'Chinese Made', Please stay away from Parnis, 'I am a Professional here'
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I too have been considering diving back into the Parnis pond too. But I will first check out your suggestion about Phoibos watches too.
 
One "homage" watch I am considering is this (or similar) Chinese made version of the famous Marina Militare watch of the 1950s which in its original form is now all but unobtainable though more modern versions of the same watch can be had for $6-8,000 US. The copies are only a couple of hundred or less of course and while no where as good, certainly look the part for people like me who are happy with this. The watch is very big - 44mm in diameter and about 1.5cm in thickness. I love the locking crown.

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This link gives an indication of just how competent some cheap "homage" versions can be. http://ventriloquisms.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/review-of-getat-luminor-panerai-homage.html
 
peterm1 said:
One "homage" watch I am considering is this (or similar) Chinese made version of the famous Marina Militare watch of the 1950s which in its original form is now all but unobtainable though more modern versions of the same watch can be had for $6-8,000 US. The copies are only a couple of hundred or less of course and while no where as good, certainly look the part for people like me who are happy with this. The watch is very big - 44mm in diameter and about 1.5cm in thickness. I love the locking crown.

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This link gives an indication of just how competent some cheap "homage" versions can be. http://ventriloquisms.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/review-of-getat-luminor-panerai-homage.html
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Perfect accessory to wear when you are out shooting with your Luftwaffen Eigentum Fed homage!

Seriously, I'd recommend saving up $3800 or so to get a PAM380 before buying a fake. Almost no one you run into every day will even notice it, and the majority who do will recognize it as fake. It is understandable that some don't want to spend that much on a watch, but there are a lot of decent inexpensive watches from makers not afraid to put their name on the dial.
 
gdi said:
Perfect accessory to wear when you are out shooting with your Luftwaffen Eigentum Fed homage!

Seriously, I'd recommend saving up $3800 or so to get a PAM380 before buying a fake. Almost no one you run into every day will even notice it, and the majority who do will recognize it as fake. It is understandable that some don't want to spend that much on a watch, but there are a lot of decent inexpensive watches from makers not afraid to put their name on the dial.
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I don't see this watch as a "fake" any more than say a Toyota might be a fake BMW because it was styled more or less like one for example. This watch is regarded as a "homage" watch (i.e. it looks somewhat like, but not exactly like a Panerai Luminor) rather than a Panerai "knock off", even though this particular model is marked "Marina Militare" (a generic phrase used by the Italian navy) on the dial rather than Parnis (the maker). Many Parnis models of this watch do come so marked however. As far as I know none of this brands watches are marked Panerai either. So there is no intent to fool anyone. There is a convergence in every market because people are drawn to good design and when that happens lots of makers come out with lots of similar looking products that partly compete and partly complement each other. I made the comment because every day on the road I see 4 door sedan cars from every manufacturer that look more or less like every other sedan car from every other manufacturer. Some of these happen to be Toyotas (or Mazdas or whatever brand you care to name) and some of them happen to be BMWs (or whatever luxury brand you care to name).

I don't particularly care either way however I specifically wanted this model because I like its features and the way it looks over some standard available Parnis models of this watch. I am not really buying it for other people to admire it in any event, rather it is for myself because I like the way it looks. And I am certainly not buying it too fool folks into thinking I own a real Panerai watch - in fact I will be happy to volunteer that it is a "homage" watch if someone does ask if it is a Panerai. I am really a person who is driven by style. Not by brand names or exclusivity. I buy things because I like how they look (and function). Not because I think they give me street cred because other people recognize that I own something expensive (or think I do).

Having said this there is still a part of me that would like to spend big money on the real thing. But on balance if I am going to do that, I prefer to spend that kind of money on cameras and especially lenses where it might make a real difference. And that way I don't have to buy a Leica "homage" camera. 😉
 
peterm1 said:
I don't see this watch as a "fake" any more than say a Toyota might be a fake BMW because it was styled more or less like one for example.
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It would be interesting to see examples of the Toyotas that pretend to be BMWs in the way this Parnis pretends it's a Panerai. I have never seen that. Once.

This watch is regarded as a "homage" watch (i.e. it looks somewhat like, but not exactly like a Panerai Luminor) rather than a Panerai "knock off", even though this particular model is marked "Marina Militare" (a generic phrase used by the Italian navy) on the dial rather than Parnis (the maker). Many Parnis models of this watch do come so marked however. As far as I know none of this brands watches are marked Panerai either. So there is no intent to fool anyone.
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Look at the PAM000673 - it doesn't say Panerai on the dial either. That watch is a true "homage" issued by Panerai in tribute to their 50's models supplied to the Italian Navy. I don't think you'll find a similar history on the part of Parnis. An homage pays respect to something that came before, but this targets making a couple hundred bucks, in most cases off people who want something they can't afford and need a way to feel more comfortable about wearing a knock-off. So some may regard it a "homage", I would wager most just view it differently.

There is a convergence in every market because people are drawn to good design and when that happens lots of makers come out with lots of similar looking products that partly compete and partly complement each other. I made the comment because every day on the road I see 4 door sedan cars from every manufacturer that look more or less like every other sedan car from every other manufacturer. Some of these happen to be Toyotas (or Mazdas or whatever brand you care to name) and some of them happen to be BMWs (or whatever luxury brand you care to name).

I don't particularly care either way however I specifically wanted this model because I like its features and the way it looks over some standard available Parnis models of this watch. I am not really buying it for other people to admire it in any event, rather it is for myself because I like the way it looks. And I am certainly not buying it too fool folks into thinking I own a real Panerai watch - in fact I will be happy to volunteer that it is a "homage" watch if someone does ask if it is a Panerai. I am really a person who is driven by style. Not by brand names or exclusivity. I buy things because I like how they look (and function). Not because I think they give me street cred because other people recognize that I own something expensive (or think I do).

Having said this there is still a part of me that would like to spend big money on the real thing. But on balance if I am going to do that, I prefer to spend that kind of money on cameras and especially lenses where it might make a real difference. And that way I don't have to buy a Leica "homage" camera. 😉
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No argument there (though I still don't see any cars that are copying others the way you seem to), if you value design over quality and function, and want a $200 watch that takes the design of a $10,000 watch, then you are making a personally rational economic choice. Enjoy the watch!
 
AEG Clock

AEG Clock

This is no wristwatch but a slave clock used in public places (factories, stations..) designed by German architect Peter Behrens in 1910 for the AEG company, manufacturer of electrical equipment. Architects Walter Gropius, Mies Van der Rohe and Le Corbusier (among others) were his pupils
I have restored and revived this clock installing two radio-controlled quartz movements

Regards
 

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Ive got a drawer full of nice mechanical watches, but my Speedmaster has been my go to for 20 years now. I wear it every day.

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I have a thing for vintage military watches too. This Timor really ticks all the boxes. 1944 British MoD issued. Just back from a fresh service, it's all original inside and out.

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I have a few vintage Seamasters, but this is my fave. The two tone, crosshair dial makes it pretty special in my book. It's all original except for the crown. I need to find one someday.

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Love your collection, Travis.

Travis L. said:
Ive got a drawer full of nice mechanical watches, but my Speedmaster has been my go to for 20 years now. I wear it every day.

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I have a thing for vintage military watches too. This Timor really ticks all the boxes. 1944 British MoD issued. Just back from a fresh service, it's all original inside and out.

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I have a few vintage Seamasters, but this is my fave. The two tone, crosshair dial makes it pretty special in my book. It's all original except for the crown. I need to find one someday.

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Emile de Leon said:
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Emile, We (my wife and I) are kind of between cats at this time. Our old girls moved on (yes, they died of old age) and no new cats have entered our life yet; for us they usually pick us not the other way around. Anyway, your picture has touched me... love them while you have them, they are a rare breed of pets.

Thanks for sharing,
Mike

P.S. Some of you guys look like you wear your watch bands too tight... leave room for air. Just saying, and all that stuff.
 
Sigma SD1 Merrill, Sigma 50mm f2.8 EX DG Macro lens

Okay, they're not wristwatches, they're pocket watches, but it's a rainy day and I had cabin fever and taking these pictures took my mind off of the fact that I couldn't go out and walk-about with a camera.

Seiko railroad pocket watch
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Orient mechanical pocket watch
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All the best,
Mike
 
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