teo
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eee, uhmmm. Sorry for my ignorance, but I don't understand why they souldn't be...Sparrow said:SLR? Why are the wheels round given it's a focal-plane shutter
Sparrow
Veteran
teo said:eee, uhmmm. Sorry for my ignorance, but I don't understand why they souldn't be...![]()
Focal plane shutters distort at slow speeds, circles go a bit oval or egg shaped that one looked slow enough the see the effect but doesn’t show it, nice shot by the way
teo
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Thanks 
It was first panning of my life
too bad for the harsh OOF, it was a f22...
It was first panning of my life
Goodyear
Happy-snap ninja
If it's an SLR with a horizontally-travelling shutter?Sparrow said:Focal plane shutters distort at slow speeds, circles go a bit oval or egg shaped that one looked slow enough the see the effect but doesn’t show it, nice shot by the way
Dougg
Seasoned Member
No, I think the effect we're thinking of comes from rather slow-moving large vertical-travel shutters such as Graflexes etc. As the FP slit moves downward, the (inverted image of) the bottom of a horizontally moving object is exposed first, and last for the top. And in the lapse of time for the shutter to travel, the object has moved relative to the film, and appears slanted toward the direction of its movement.Goodyear said:If it's an SLR with a horizontally-travelling shutter?
I think a slow-moving horizontal shutter would slightly compress (horizontally) an object moving opposite to the shutter movement and stretch one moving the same direction.
teo
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Yes, I used a Minolta X-700, with horizontally-traveling shutter.
(I'm afraid we're hijacking the thread?)
(I'm afraid we're hijacking the thread?)
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
This was actually shot with a slow shutter time (1/4 or 1/8 sec), wide open:
Leica M6 + CV 35mm Ultron f/1.7 / Kodak Ektachrome 100
So there are some exceptions to the "blur" rule for "slow" shutter speeds.

Leica M6 + CV 35mm Ultron f/1.7 / Kodak Ektachrome 100
So there are some exceptions to the "blur" rule for "slow" shutter speeds.
Dougg
Seasoned Member
You're right, teo, we're probably hijacking the thread; just one more observation... That focal plane shutter curtains move the same velocity for each shutter speed. They don't move more slowly for slow speeds; they just remain open longer.
For fast speeds, faster than the X-sync speed, the second curtain starts to close before the first curtain has completed its travel, and this accentuates as the speeds increase, until at high speeds there's just a narrow slit between the first and second curtains as they traverse the distance, still taking the full X-sync time to complete the journey and expose the whole frame.
amateriat
We're all light!
A trio of examples:
- First image: Amtrak Metroliner (one of the real ones), Elizabeth, N.J., 1976. Tech info: Canon EF, FD 24mm f/2.8, 4x ND filter, Kodak EPR, approx. 1/15 sec. (amazed I remember this much...and how about all these trains in this thread!?)
- Second image: Chelsea, NYC, 1996. Tech info: Konica Hexar autofocus, Kodak TXP, somewhere between 1/30 and 1/60 sec.
- Third image: wedding, Brooklyn, NY, November 2005. Tech info: Konica Hexar RF, M-Hex 28mm f/2.8, Ilford XP2, slow-sync flash.
- Barrett
- First image: Amtrak Metroliner (one of the real ones), Elizabeth, N.J., 1976. Tech info: Canon EF, FD 24mm f/2.8, 4x ND filter, Kodak EPR, approx. 1/15 sec. (amazed I remember this much...and how about all these trains in this thread!?)
- Second image: Chelsea, NYC, 1996. Tech info: Konica Hexar autofocus, Kodak TXP, somewhere between 1/30 and 1/60 sec.
- Third image: wedding, Brooklyn, NY, November 2005. Tech info: Konica Hexar RF, M-Hex 28mm f/2.8, Ilford XP2, slow-sync flash.
- Barrett
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Sparrow
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I’ve seen it from both an M3 and OM1, I assumed it was common but I can’t actually find any examples, perhaps my imaginationDougg said:No, I think the effect we're thinking of comes from rather slow-moving large vertical-travel shutters such as Graflexes etc. As the FP slit moves downward, the (inverted image of) the bottom of a horizontally moving object is exposed first, and last for the top. And in the lapse of time for the shutter to travel, the object has moved relative to the film, and appears slanted toward the direction of its movement.
I think a slow-moving horizontal shutter would slightly compress (horizontally) an object moving opposite to the shutter movement and stretch one moving the same direction.
DMG
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kestas
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Cooki
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Simon Larbalestier
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Nikon S3 2000 + 105/2.5 Nikkor TX 400
Jim Watts
Still trying to See.
nico
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rolleistef
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jamesj
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here is one from me...

pvdhaar
Peter
Here's my personal favorite where photography and quantum physics meet.. Broadly speaking, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that you can either capture motion or position, but not both at the same time.. We now know Heisenberg had it completely wrong; I'm located exactly in my car, and the speedo shows exactly 25kmh.. Take that, Werner!
Oh, and image details: Bessa-T+CV25/4, 1second exposure on Fuji Xtra-400..
Oh, and image details: Bessa-T+CV25/4, 1second exposure on Fuji Xtra-400..
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