mfogiel
Veteran
back alley,
I find that taking out 2 bodies when I shoot and want to stay light works best.
I'd normally use the R4A with the 25 or 28mm and keep a 21mm lens in my pocket, and R3A with the 50mm, and keep a 75mm or 90 mm in my pocket too.
For a "full coverage", I'd bring a FM3A with a 100 macro lens and leave the 90mm and 75mm at home.
Another possibility, if you want to be fast and light, but don't need close up, is the R4A+21mm ZI+35mm and R3A+75mm.
I wear glasses, so the R3A with 40mm is unuseable, it is just useable with the 50mm, perfect with the 75mm. and with the addition of the 1.35 mag it becomes first rate for the 90mm. Make sure, once you get yours, to shoot a test roll of a ruler at 45° for the rf alignement with all the lenses you want to use with it. I've had some problems both with the rf accuracy itself with all lenses, and with a proper alignement of my 75mm Heliar.
I find that taking out 2 bodies when I shoot and want to stay light works best.
I'd normally use the R4A with the 25 or 28mm and keep a 21mm lens in my pocket, and R3A with the 50mm, and keep a 75mm or 90 mm in my pocket too.
For a "full coverage", I'd bring a FM3A with a 100 macro lens and leave the 90mm and 75mm at home.
Another possibility, if you want to be fast and light, but don't need close up, is the R4A+21mm ZI+35mm and R3A+75mm.
I wear glasses, so the R3A with 40mm is unuseable, it is just useable with the 50mm, perfect with the 75mm. and with the addition of the 1.35 mag it becomes first rate for the 90mm. Make sure, once you get yours, to shoot a test roll of a ruler at 45° for the rf alignement with all the lenses you want to use with it. I've had some problems both with the rf accuracy itself with all lenses, and with a proper alignement of my 75mm Heliar.
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kalokeri said:Why do you do this to me regulary? Whenever I decided that I don´t need an R4A you do start another thread like this.
Bet, you will be happy with a R3A. I suggest a black one.
Thomas
sorry thomas.
and to add a bit more misery...you really do need an r4a, it is such a great camera
joe
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rxmd said:
i bought the r4m first.
great camera but i kept forgetting to set the meter (too used to the ae on the zi)
then i bought the r4a and it is perfect for me.
thought about keeping the r4m as mechanical back up...then thought it not such a good idea.
now wondering what to do...
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ClaremontPhoto said:
jon, first of all, it's back alley
think zen...it's more about the journey.
i harm no one with my actions, enjoy myself mostly and have such fun along the way.
have a cup of coffee on me
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rxmd said:
my particular neurosis prefers a complete seperation of kit items, therefore, i would prefer a seperate cv kit and a seperate zi kit.
the cv kit is so small and light that a second cv body is barely noticeable in the bag.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
back alley said:jon, first of all, it's back alley
think zen...it's more about the journey.
i harm no one with my actions, enjoy myself mostly and have such fun along the way.
have a cup of coffee on me
BACK ALLEY.
MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK ON WHEN I SEE YOU, just like your's doesn't seem to work at all.
I went for the coffee, a bica cheia, and I told them that you'll pay later.
Thank you.
Yes, I know you enjoy buying and selling. It's not my thing, but it's your thing. We both of us harm no one with our actions, enjoy ourselves mostly, and have fun along the way.
ferider
Veteran
Absolutely no question Joe. The R3* is great for 50 and 75. In fact,
of all the bodies I have tried, the R3* is the only camera that
is usable with 75mm for me - and perfect at it.
Roland.
of all the bodies I have tried, the R3* is the only camera that
is usable with 75mm for me - and perfect at it.
Roland.
kalokeri
larger than 35mm
back alley said:you really do need an r4a, it is such a great camera
joe
Deep in my heart I know but my head just says no. I´m trying to restrain myself.
Thomas
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
There's an R4A out there for me too.
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tedwhite
Guest
Jeez, after "listening" to all of you, maybe I should redirect my lust away from an R4M and start thinking about an R4A. As I read more about it (the bartender's site is truly excellent), it appears that the R4A can become an R4M by merely taking it off the "A" setting?
Ted
Ted
MickH
Well-known
tedwhite said:
That's what finally swung me to the R4A as opposed to the R4M. It seemed that there was no "trade-off" Manual vs AE, I was expecting there to be some twiddly bit on the R4M to compensate for the lack of AE, but there doen't appear to be.
It's coming next week and I can't wait!
pesphoto
Veteran
what is the different between the r2a, r3a and r4a?
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pesphoto said:
framelines and finder mag.
cq has a chart with all the specs side by side
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tedwhite said:
the appeal of the r4m is a mechanical shutter and a body that needs a battery for only the meter, it still works fine with a dead battery.
Sparrow
Veteran
ferider said:
That’s so true, particularly the 75, a match made in heaven…………….like the r2* is with a 35
:angel:
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
When does a mechanical camera matter? --> Only when the battery goes dead.back alley said:
When does the battery go dead? --> In the middle of a shooting session.
Do you know in advance when it will go dead? --> No. There's no way to know which body to use.
How can you prepare for the battery going dead? --> Either (A) Always take a mechanical body and never use AE. Or (B) Always take a spare set of batteries.
If you are an AE user, a mechanical body makes no sense at all if you can remember to take two LR44s with you. Not particularly hard in my book.
Regarding the separation of kits, well, it's an argument that wouldn't work for me but then everybody has their own approaches to what they take with themselves gear-wise
Philipp
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rxmd said:When does a mechanical camera matter? --> Only when the battery goes dead.
When does the battery go dead? --> In the middle of a shooting session.
Do you know in advance when it will go dead? --> No. There's no way to know which body to use.
How can you prepare for the battery going dead? --> Either (A) Always take a mechanical body and never use AE. Or (B) Always take a spare set of batteries.
If you are an AE user, a mechanical body makes no sense at all if you can remember to take two LR44s with you. Not particularly hard in my book.
Regarding the separation of kits, well, it's an argument that wouldn't work for me but then everybody has their own approaches to what they take with themselves gear-wise
Philipp
i wasn't advocating for mechanical, just reporting on what others have said.
my kit set up is based on keeping the gear seperate, as i sometimes like to shoot the zeiss kit and other times the cv kit.
i don't expect it to make sense to others as i have a bit of add in me.
joe
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tedwhite
Guest
Pesphoto:
The R4A/R4M cameras have framelines for 21/25/28/35/50 - a first in RF camera history - and are obviously designed for those of us who cannot live without wides. I count myself among that motley crew.
The R3A/R3M are made for those who prefer longer focal lengths.
Ted
The R4A/R4M cameras have framelines for 21/25/28/35/50 - a first in RF camera history - and are obviously designed for those of us who cannot live without wides. I count myself among that motley crew.
The R3A/R3M are made for those who prefer longer focal lengths.
Ted
amateriat
We're all light!
Depends on the camera. My Hexars have an always-on, multi-stage battery indicator that leaves me with no surprises about battery condition. (It also helps that the cameras are quite miserly with battery usage.)rxmd said:
True...and, as you point out, how hard is it to take a spare set of small batteries?
- Barrett
iandg
Iggypops
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Oh dear i had a R3a to go along side my R4a i used the 21,25,28,35,on my R4a and the 50,75 on my R3a but guess what i sold the R3a after 4 months and bought a 75 viewfinder now i use 21,25,28,35,50,75 on my R4a.Now im taking more pictures two bodies just complicates things.Keep it simple thats what ive learnt.Oh and if i want to go realy wide i just go out with my L and 15 and 25.
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Oh dear i had a R3a to go along side my R4a i used the 21,25,28,35,on my R4a and the 50,75 on my R3a but guess what i sold the R3a after 4 months and bought a 75 viewfinder now i use 21,25,28,35,50,75 on my R4a.Now im taking more pictures two bodies just complicates things.Keep it simple thats what ive learnt.Oh and if i want to go realy wide i just go out with my L and 15 and 25.