What camera would you choose as a special gift?

Depends on budget and situation of course, I mean, there are important life events, and important life events. If it's the latter, then you're going to want something that can be kept for the rest of your life and passed down to others. Something that your benefactor and you might talk about in decades to come.

So basically, get something that you'll use, and will last.
 
A gift is a delicate thing to determine for someone, as it is intended to bring pleasure to both giver and receiver, and implies the wish to continue or even enhance a special relationship. I think that the best advice has already been given: know the giver, and choose within their means, or what you think is their means, and something which would enhance your photography beyond what you now enjoy.

Good luck and to use an Australianism: "It's a b*gger of a problem to have!"
 
Hi,

MF is OK but you'd need a lot of bits and pieces to go with it if you've only used 35mm at the moment. Also I'm not sure what people mean by MF these days as a Rollei TLR is a miniature to me but then I'm getting old.

Going to cut film could be fun but I suggest you look at the price of the film and a second lens, plus what will you do about D&P'ing it? It will mean a proper darkroom and the enlarger and it's lens could cause problems.

I'm still voting for a decent P&S as they will be 35mm but will mean you can carry a film camera all the time.

Regards, David
 
My wish list camera: a 5x8 Chamonix convertible camera with 4x5 reducing back and 5x8 holders. Why 5x8? The Golden Mean: absolutely aesthetically appealing ratio of width to length. Nearly anything you compose within the frame is visually perfect. It is simple to contact print a stunning image with no need to enlarging.

If I could just find some one to buy it for me!!
Dear Wayne,

And to make 5x8 holders and cut 5x8 film...

Cheers,

R.
 
And so many things I've never heard of, sending me to google.. I wonder does Frank P's suggestion win prize of most opulent? Although an Alpa also looks a wonderfully exotic beast.

Ah I think a proper Alpa outfit would run more than a Linhof today... I think the basic Technika is still under $10K excluding taxes.

I'm only joking though and I hope you are too.... it would be wrong to take advantage and get a very expensive camera simply to maximize the gift. And it would be silly to switch formats and workflow because some peons on the internet suggested it.

If it truly is a legitimate and heartfelt offer then perhaps a diplomatic way to get the most usefulness out of it is to explain what your Nikon and Leica cameras do and how much each cost, with lens and accessories, so that the gifter can know what they are getting into to... and get a back up to what you have that is working so well.

Or take a trip with them and photograph, experiences are better than hardware.
 
Dear Wayne,

And to make 5x8 holders and cut 5x8 film...

Cheers,

R.

The humble editor of "The Online Photographer" bought such an outfit and resold it in mint unused condition a few years later. I suspect that's the fate of a lot of oddball formats... you never see a "well used and repaired" Chamonix 7x17 or Ebony 11x14 for sale. A fraction actually get used well and the rest are purchased for bragging rights or sentimentality. Like Leicas....
 
I was joking of course! As I knew you were, once I'd worked out what all the kit was! (As I presume was the chap who suggested a thing that ran to about 40k!!)

I totally agree with you about the switching formats thing being tricky and I've only ever had things that I've used pretty relentlessly.

But a fun desert island game nonetheless, especially as this week some work has had me on trains travelling around the country with little respite.



Ah I think a proper Alpa outfit would run more than a Linhof today... I think the basic Technika is still under $10K excluding taxes.

I'm only joking though and I hope you are too.... it would be wrong to take advantage and get a very expensive camera simply to maximize the gift. And it would be silly to switch formats and workflow because some peons on the internet suggested it.

If it truly is a legitimate and heartfelt offer then perhaps a diplomatic way to get the most usefulness out of it is to explain what your Nikon and Leica cameras do and how much each cost, with lens and accessories, so that the gifter can know what they are getting into to... and get a back up to what you have that is working so well.

Or take a trip with them and photograph, experiences are better than hardware.
 
You have a lot of small format, handheld cameras, with no movements.

I'd go for a Large Format wood classic like an Eastman 2D or Gundlach Korona (cheap as $300-500) or Deardorff (expensive). You can learn about using the movements to get parts of the frame in or out of focus, correct perspective effects and do some fun stuff. I'd suggest 4x5 size. Though I hardly ever shoot that small, 5x7 and 8x10 film are much more expensive. They will be making 4x5 film for a long time.

Something like this would be useful, let you do things you cannot with small, no-movement cameras, and never break in your lifetime. Or the next persons.
 
Someone has very kindly offered to buy me a new camera, to mark a special life event. They like my pictures as well, so rather than a watch or something they have suggested a camera.

So it's something that needs to have a bit of meaning and some sort of longevity I suppose. I could choose anything really I think, within reason.

This is not the sort of thing that usually happens to me, so I throw it open to the RFF panel. In fact I've never bought a new camera, and all the ones I own have been carefully saved for and selected from second hand stock.

For info I use a heavily battered m6, well worn m9 and occasionally a beaten but unbowed nikon f3: all of them well loved.

What do you think?

I think you'll get as many answers as persons answering.
Best that you decide what you'd like and if it is affordable for your benefactor to purchase you'll both end up happy.
 
This is an interesting exercise indeed. The range of suggestions is amazingly wide.

But I am enjoying the desert island quality of these responses!

MF is interesting. I have had access to a Hasselblad for a little while, as one was used in a production of a play of mine and then hung around. Such a gorgeous machine but I didn't find myself using it often, perhaps because of a lack of familiarity or having no skill in focusing it.

Square-format Hasselblads are beautiful with standard 80/2,8 lenses and hopelessly ill balanced with just about everything else. Never got on with Rollei TLRs (or any TLRs) either. It's intensely personal.

Cheers,

R.

I have never gotten on with sheet-film cameras, even though I've used them extensively. I haven't owned one in years. I find that 6x6 is really delightful to work with.

Hasselblad handling is eccentric, much in the same way that handling a Leica has its own eccentricities. If you get used to it though, nothing else feels quite "right." After a twenty-year run with Mamiya C330 (33, 220) equipment, I switched to Hassy in about 1993 and never looked back. I've recently reacquired another Hassy kit for a specific purpose; much later gear than I had originally in the '90s. This time around, I could have gotten Bronica, Mamiya, Pentax or Contax, but I returned to Hasseblad because I know it inside and out. I was shocked at the used pricing of medium format film equipment. It is currently the least expensive I've ever seen it.

What makes this particular configuration of camera (Hasselblad, Bronica) so attractive to me is the square format and the ability to be almost unlimited in customizing your system to suit you and the tasks you have at hand.

That it is truly a modular system and can be easily and quickly configured any way you need it to do pretty much any job is a huge benefit. The greatest advance in the Hassleblad line was probably the acute-matte focusing screens and they're availalble in a variety of styles from plain matte to having the old-style split image prism and microprism surrounding that. There are etched grids, microprisms, and just about any style you can imagine available. They are such an improvement over the earlier ground-glass focusing screens as to make them an entirely different camera. Interchangeable roll-film backs mean that you're not tied to a specific ISO or type of film.

I'm not necessarily advocating Hasselblad as the do-all end-all 'cause it isn't, but sometimes the discussion of the eccentricity factor that's brought out in threads like this over-rides the practicality of the system. If you liked that old Hasselblad you were able to play with, it may be worth re-evaluating Hasselblad with a later Acute-matte screen that agrees with the way you like to focus.
 
In a situation such as this I would opt for something I have always wanted, but wouldn't necessarily buy for myself. For me, that would be a new Rolleiflex 2.8FX. I've lusted over a new Rollei since I got into photography about 8 years ago, but don't think I could ever justify the cost. Of course this is assuming that budget isn't an issue.
 
. . . Hasselblad handling is eccentric, much in the same way that handling a Leica has its own eccentricities. If you get used to it though, nothing else feels quite "right." . . . .
No, I found it very intuitive and well balanced -- UNTIL I put anything other than the 80/2.8 Planar on it. Then it's great if you put it on a tripod. But I find a KowaSix that we inherited from my late father-in-law to be at least as easy and convenient, apart from the fixed backs.

I stopped using square format professionally after a couple of bad experiences with art directors cropping trannies unbelievably incompetently.

Cheers,

R.
 
No, I found it very intuitive and well balanced -- UNTIL I put anything other than the 80/2.8 Planar on it. Then it's great if you put it on a tripod. But I find a KowaSix that we inherited from my late father-in-law to be at least as easy and convenient, apart from the fixed backs.

I stopped using square format professionally after a couple of bad experiences with art directors cropping trannies unbelievably incompetently.

Cheers,

R.

Interesting point there about the transparencies... I've probably not shot more than a half-dozen rolls of the stuff in 6x6 in my entire career. And you're right that the balance gets a little dicey for hand-holding, especially when you're in the 250mm range and up. Up to about 180mm though, they're ok. Not great maybe, but ok.
 
I've looked at your photos. Nice, btw, and clearly 35mm in style.

I second the notion of thinking about your photography future. Do you want to tools to continue the photography you are doing, but differently -- difft look, etc? or do you want to try another kind of photography? If so what?

Here are three different directions to consider:

1) in 35mm, XPan to change the aspect ratio, but maintain the speed of capture

2) in RF -- the Texas Leica, for more negative space -- similar but slower

3) for something very different -- Hassy SWC.

Had your friend not suggested this gift, was there something you were pining for?

Good luck with the fantasies, the friendship, and your photography.

Giorgio
 
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